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Ms. Toad

(38,793 posts)
16. You might be surprised.
Fri Feb 24, 2023, 03:08 PM
Feb 2023

Starting at least a decade ago, at the college/grad school level there has been a slowly rowing movement to ban computers from the classroom.

The argument is that computers encourage students to trasnscribe lectures, rather than synthesize the information being conveyed. Students who wrote were forced to process the information and synthesize it in smaller chunks as they were receiving because it was impossible to transcribe it using pen and pencil. In addition, many of those who aren't transcribing are surfing the net.

I've taught alongside at least one professor who banned computers from their law school classroom.

Personally, as a student, I found the opposite. I took typing in 7th grade, and can type as accurately and as quickly as any administrative assistant I've ever had). This speed allowed me to synthesize the information and organize my notes in a way that I never could with handwriting. But I was in law school (with a bachelor and masters degree under my belt) - and had had years of practice synthesizing informaiton to the best I could with the slow (handwriting) tools I had. So I took the synthesizing skills I already had and used my computer to implement them more effectively.

But as a small counter - I am back in the classroom as a student - in a class in which I am actively transcribing (computer programs being written on the fly by an instructor). During those sessions, I am learning less than the ones in which the professor is teaching - so there is some truth to the concern about transcription rather than synthesis.

ChatGPT may accelerate that largely static movement.

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Ummm I'm pretty sure "don't plagiarize" covers it. ColinC Feb 2023 #1
Reminds me of when Wikipedia as a reliable cbabe Feb 2023 #2
How is "anyone can post" different from the the larger world? hunter Feb 2023 #20
Drawing the line on verifiable sources can be cbabe Feb 2023 #23
I'm a University of California guy. hunter Feb 2023 #29
All kinds of universities and profs receive private funds, making their cbabe Feb 2023 #32
It will soon be that assignments will need to be written in class, and classrooms Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #3
That isn't going to happen. edisdead Feb 2023 #4
What isn't going to happen? Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #5
In class only pencil/pen writing. edisdead Feb 2023 #6
Who said it was? Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #7
You did. edisdead Feb 2023 #8
OK. If that's what you took from the post. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #9
I am not trying to offend you edisdead Feb 2023 #22
You might be surprised. Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #16
I wouldn't bet it won't. Saw an article in a British paper a few highplainsdem Feb 2023 #12
In class essays are a good idea: They can have/bring in computers and tablets to write them andym Feb 2023 #13
Exactly. Schools will need to move to where assignments are done Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #14
In junior high I would have loved using a pencil instead of a fountain pen and ink well. friend of a friend Feb 2023 #18
This is how Skynet begins, with its ancestors spreading disinformation. Thomas Hurt Feb 2023 #10
"Sharpen you pencils' Need to teach cursive again first. I argued against It's stoppage in the- Prairie_Seagull Feb 2023 #11
Lol! True about the cursive. Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #15
Fuck cursive. The devil created that. hunter Feb 2023 #21
I suspect this will be part of the steategy edisdead Feb 2023 #24
A possible (partial) solution: ret5hd Feb 2023 #17
So as a retired teacher (high school and law school) Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #19
My wife has often taught internet literacy, statistics, and medicine in her career... hunter Feb 2023 #26
I'm not convinced I could identify it without the context Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #27
I taught Biology and Intro to Physical Science in an underfunded overcrowded big city school. hunter Feb 2023 #30
Similar here. Ms. Toad Feb 2023 #31
Here is an alternate view point. honest.abe Feb 2023 #25
just wait 'til people start having generative AI capable chips implanted in their brains anarch Feb 2023 #28
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