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The Magistrate

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30. The Two Wings Present Different Problems, Sir
Sat Feb 25, 2023, 07:38 PM
Feb 2023

Which looms largest depends on the moment.

The gist of it is the 'progressive wing' presents difficulties in election season, the 'moderate wing' presents difficulties in governance season.

The 'progressive wing' is not wholly responsible for the electoral difficulties charged to it. Democratic Party candidates standing in a general election can count on being called to account for statements made by various campus radicals or fossil Marxists, who have no connection to or influence in the Party. This is a decision made by the press, in its unending effort to present the major parties as equivalent in all regards. It's become cliche: a student caucus somewhere denounces Mr. Lincoln as a thoroughgoing racist and demands his statue be removed from the campus; a Republican member of the House proclaims it's white people are the chief victims of racism today --- so it's clear left and right both contain problematic racial extremists. The obvious differences in the situations need no spelling out here, save noting that a Democratic candidate will be hounded over the resolution of the campus committee, and no interviewer will ask a Republican candidate whether he or she really believes as does their colleague, that white people labor under a horrid burden of racial persecution.

The 'moderate wing', however, is largely responsible for creation of the difficulties it places before a Democratic administration and Congressional majority. In office, Democratic politicians of progressive views are reliable votes for the program of a Democratic administration and majority, even when watered down from their own goals. Whatever the 'free radicals' of the left may be, the working pols of the Progressive Caucus understand half a loaf is better than none: they will complain, but will vote right. Moderates' not only operate as wreckers, cooperating with Republicans to thwart the policies Democratic voters put a Democratic government in power to enact, they generally do so under cover of a cloud of squid's ink proclaiming it is disloyal progressive are the problem, because they complain not enough will be done, even as 'moderates' vote to see nothing is done. They claim this is necessary for them to hold their seats so a majority can be maintained, but in fact most who make this argument fail to hold their seat through the next election, because the real result of their actions is not to get some votes from 'reasonable' Republicans, but to discourage Democratic turnout, because they did not do what they were elected to do. This is not rocket surgery: Democratic voters elect candidates to uphold policies and pass laws Democratic voters think best, and won't go an extra mile to vote for someone who prevents this happening.

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The thing is Bettie Feb 2023 #1
+1 well said! Emile Feb 2023 #2
The thing is, running a state party shouldn't be an exercise in ideology. Ocelot II Feb 2023 #10
+1 betsuni Feb 2023 #22
+2 Hekate Feb 2023 #23
Yeah DSA.. "The Democratic Party" is NOT Cha Feb 2023 #29
Part Of The Problem, Ma'am, Is A Sort Of Semantic Stretch The Magistrate Feb 2023 #11
Indeed it is, Sir Hekate Feb 2023 #24
Sanders progressive agenda has been shunned for years, by Party and Media. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #16
The Two Wings Present Different Problems, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2023 #30
Sir, entirely agree. Astute analysis. The Moderate D demanding resignation of Al Franken, to Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #33
Some Of This, Sir, Is Simply Because Our People Sit Still For It The Magistrate Feb 2023 #34
Republican Party, without a party platform, is not out of touch, they touching conspiracy Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #37
Politico NoRethugFriends Feb 2023 #3
Factual brooklynite Feb 2023 #7
Politico shouldn't run any stories. Most are stories. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #38
It's The Great Difference Between Our Party And Theirs, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2023 #4
TBH... JoeOtterbein Feb 2023 #9
Give Your Left Nut For It, Eh? The Magistrate Feb 2023 #12
A big bowl of mixed nuts is always a hit at a party! emulatorloo Feb 2023 #18
The point is: ideology has nothing to do with running a State Party. brooklynite Feb 2023 #5
+1 nt JoeOtterbein Feb 2023 #8
+1, uponit7771 Feb 2023 #15
+++ emulatorloo Feb 2023 #20
No one looks to the DSA for political competence. comradebillyboy Feb 2023 #6
I sure as hell don't. nt Cha Feb 2023 #26
Welcome my son welcome to the machine . . . Gaugamela Feb 2023 #13
Lots of great climate action in the IRA of 2022. Of course media doesn't report that. emulatorloo Feb 2023 #19
Nevada Democrats implode over battle for party control LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #40
That Totally Sounds like them.. Thank Goodness Cha Feb 2023 #44
When the fascist bigs had their yaesu Feb 2023 #14
Socialism makes mistakes, because it deals with humans, Capitalism is perfect, deals only with greed Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #17
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #21
Thank Goodness & Democracy that Cha Feb 2023 #25
The voters of Nevada, not the state party. DFW Feb 2023 #27
I imagined SEn CCM did. GOTV Cha Feb 2023 #28
They never gave up. They knew it was up to them. DFW Feb 2023 #31
I Appreciate them so Much.. from the link.. Cha Feb 2023 #32
It's The Saving Grace, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 2023 #35
I would give the dissenters from the middle ground more credit than that, Sanders is their leader. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #39
+1 betsuni Feb 2023 #36
Luckily enough of the Harry Reid machine survived to help Dems keep the Senate seat LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #41
Good ol Harry Reid Machine! TY Cha Feb 2023 #43
Hopefully the March 4 primary/election will vote out these current leadership LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #42
Amen & Hallelujah! Cha Feb 2023 #45
This is not good news for the party LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2023 #46
TY.. Good Luck to our Democracy on Cha Mar 2023 #47
Democratic socialists swept out of power in Nevada LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2023 #48
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