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jmowreader

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115. My thoughts

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 07:19 PM

Nov 2012

Romney is the most insulated candidate in history.

We are talking a borderline sociopath, which you'd have to be to work in vulture capital. His advisers couldn't tell him the truth, which is he would lose big because being Not Obama wins when Obama was a shitty president and Obama is a great one.

So they made sure not to let Romney close to reality. They showed him polls which were less reliable than Soviet crop reports and made the same way. They never showed him a whole paper, just anti-Obama clippings. I am sure he saw all 12 of the endorsements from papers who endorsed Obama in 08 and Romney this year, but not the multitude of Obama endorsements. And I'm now convinced this is why Fox was Benghazi News Network for the last month: they didn't let Romney watch anything else, except maybe PG-rated DVDs.

This also explains Ryan's absence on the campaign trail: he knew, so they had to keep them apart.

When election night came and the emperor was seen strolling down the street naked, Romney came to realize not only the futility of his quest but the deceit of his advisors.

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Adviser: Romney "shellshocked" by loss [View all] kpete Nov 2012 OP

Kinda like workers at factories who suddenly lost their jobs to Bain SoCalDem Nov 2012 #1

Exactly. It's too bad they didn't build their own stage first. myrna minx Nov 2012 #8

Well they did build their own coffin. Skidmore Nov 2012 #35

they would not know which end of the hammer to hold bottomofthehill Nov 2012 #96

^^^^^^^^^ COLGATE4 Nov 2012 #105

If true, they were all lied to as well. defacto7 Nov 2012 #119

+1! uponit7771 Nov 2012 #152

Reminds me too,of that commercial where the worker says they built the stage... tokenlib Nov 2012 #17

Bingo. n/t Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #27

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #48

+1,000,000. closeupready Nov 2012 #77

Thread winner in reply #1. Scuba Nov 2012 #79

My thoughts exactly. Spock_is_Skeptical Nov 2012 #92

Imagine what his cabinet would have looked like pokerfan Nov 2012 #128

Doubtful. jmowreader Nov 2012 #232

! Kadie Nov 2012 #94

Karma that bad will not be denied. hifiguy Nov 2012 #95

This is a perfect comment! liberalmuse Nov 2012 #113

You stopped me in my tracks MadashellLynn Nov 2012 #116

No kidding!!! You're completely right. Romney knows how it feels now. progressivebydesign Nov 2012 #130

kick that! docgee Nov 2012 #139

Excellent analogy! BlueMTexpat Nov 2012 #141

+1! uponit7771 Nov 2012 #151

Boom! You got that right! nt valerief Nov 2012 #159

Precisely Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #172

its a karma thing MsFlorida Nov 2012 #173

A-FRIGGIN-MEN redStateBlueHeart Nov 2012 #185

second frigging amen ! nt steve2470 Nov 2012 #227

nice! best reply LostinRed Nov 2012 #175

That was my first thought. Those outsourced workers felt the same way. AndyA Nov 2012 #176

Not as shellshocked as the country would have been had he won. MotorCityMan Nov 2012 #196

+10^9 D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #217

Or the millions of pensions he's disappeared since 1984. DCKit Nov 2012 #229

Oh, you are so ON. Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #230

Two words, Romney/Ryan a-holes: Nate. Silver. Sorry for your ignorance. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #2

Anyone have videos of Romney... barnabas63 Nov 2012 #3

good question - wondering if they were doing a documentary of his assumed-win from the inside tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #78

Video would be great, I'd be satisfied with photos Turborama Nov 2012 #163

Maybe there was no service girl from Guatemala in the room... Amonester Nov 2012 #220

No sympathy. None. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #4

Same here. Good riddance. Go home now and leave us alone. n/t Iris Nov 2012 #212

HOW THE HELL DID THEY THINK THEY WERE WINNING???? montanacowboy Nov 2012 #5

same reason they thought Obama did not mention terrorists the day after the Libya attack Skittles Nov 2012 #11

Please Proceed.... blue_heron Nov 2012 #136

Software slutticus Nov 2012 #33

Agreed. KKKarl told them the "fix" was in. KKKarl was wrong. OregonBlue Nov 2012 #104

Karl knew the fix was in, but he did not count on people standing in line for 10 hours or more LiberalArkie Nov 2012 #147

^^ This. Now, the $64,000 question: did Anonymous catch them doing it? n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #198

That's what I've been wondering. Karl Rove sure felt like he had it in the bag loudsue Nov 2012 #218

They underestimated how many people would turn out and stay in line long enough to vote. n/t gkhouston Nov 2012 #221

Rachel did a really good story on it Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #41

Wonder if you have a link? mrsadm Nov 2012 #164

Some businessman - ignores the market research Patiod Nov 2012 #70

Romney almost certainly surrounded himself with advisors who Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #74

They were.... RichGirl Nov 2012 #82

They deducted 2/5ths from our side. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2012 #85

Thanks for the chuckle ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #183

The emperor's new polls. PA Democrat Nov 2012 #93

they also think their ideas will save the economy of the country. ginnyinWI Nov 2012 #99

Divine mandate? McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #102

They were in shock about Ohio! He would not concede for awhile... sheshe2 Nov 2012 #118

+1! uponit7771 Nov 2012 #155

that is proof they just do NOT listen to WE THE PEOPLE Skittles Nov 2012 #6

This is what happens when you believe your own bullshit. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #7

+ 1 Bertha Venation Nov 2012 #170

I love this. Arrogant fucker meets reality. cali Nov 2012 #9

It's kind of scary how far into the RW bubble he was ensconced. CakeGrrl Nov 2012 #10

It is almost sinister Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #45

Ryan/Romney: Note to self mikeysnot Nov 2012 #12

Great POTUS he would make, NOT! The Bill Maher bubble I guess... Shocked, ahh, polling??? winstars Nov 2012 #13

They just don't get it HockeyMom Nov 2012 #14

They don't like me momma.... WCGreen Nov 2012 #15

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #51

They thought that they had successfully suppressed the Democratic vote. yardwork Nov 2012 #16

I wholeheartedly agree with this Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #56

That's what I think. MoonRiver Nov 2012 #84

Exactly. RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #131

Detached from Reality 2roos Nov 2012 #18

Yes it is!!!!!!!!!!!! Buddaman Nov 2012 #52

Why are the righties the only ones who didn't know that they would lose? MrScorpio Nov 2012 #19

Because they're firm believers in shooting the messenger. JoeyT Nov 2012 #137

and they thought they could handle a world crisis?? Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #20

Right? Chorophyll Nov 2012 #36

Yup. surrealAmerican Nov 2012 #91

Get the tranq rifle out of the closet, Ann. He's having another episode. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2012 #21

Good. Maybe now he can relate to the thousands of people he has fucked over. Puglover Nov 2012 #22

Don't you mean 'Bainport' FieryLocks Nov 2012 #204

A more clueless, out of touch bunch I have NEVER seen. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #23

Deny math at your own peril Lex Nov 2012 #24

They're a pack of liars and thieves: their public humiliation was no different than alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #25

Wow. He's just as entitled as the 47% he openly mocked. Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #26

Why did they ever think they were going to win? Chorophyll Nov 2012 #28

Republicans need to leave their bubble. mzmolly Nov 2012 #29

Just like a spoiled brat to be unprepared to lose. mattclearing Nov 2012 #30

Without understanding what happened?? HAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! Avalux Nov 2012 #31

The only way they should be shocked Politicalboi Nov 2012 #32

When Christie threw Romney under the bus, that was another way of indicating that Christie coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #148

Now he knows how the rest of the country feels. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #34

I hope it burns hot for a long time you f*ckers! L0oniX Nov 2012 #37

If they had read the news reports they didn't like gollygee Nov 2012 #38

People worth upwards of $1B are not used to losing. reflection Nov 2012 #39

EXCELLENT post!!! calimary Nov 2012 #135

You were never going to win, you non-empathetic authoritarian assholes. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #40

exactly!! Satch59 Nov 2012 #64

Hey Romney and Ryan argiel1234 Nov 2012 #42

They have learned the folly of believing FOX News and Limbaugh Vinnie From Indy Nov 2012 #43

They have learned the folly of .... AlbertCat Nov 2012 #193

Cue the violins malaise Nov 2012 #44

If you begin to feel sympathy or empathy..take a dose of Sensata....n/t tokenlib Nov 2012 #46

Republicans actually thought they were going to win? Quantess Nov 2012 #47

If this stuff is true, if these people actually thought they were going to win, enough Nov 2012 #49

i heard he crapped his pants n/t Enrique Nov 2012 #50

oh, so that explains his tiptoe walk... NuttyFluffers Nov 2012 #216

Silver and Sam Wang were 100% right hifiguy Nov 2012 #53

Let's hope both Rmoney and Lyin' suffer from some severe PTSD! Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #54

wow jenlucu Nov 2012 #55

They made the mistake of believing their own propaganda diane in sf Nov 2012 #57

He must have listened to his advisers TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #58

Poor thing! City Lights Nov 2012 #59

This is perfect evidence of why R/R would have been terrible P/VPs. spooky3 Nov 2012 #60

Maybe he will stop being so arrogant young_at_heart Nov 2012 #61

Good. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #62

Karma buddy... Liberalboy Nov 2012 #63

This is so in keeping with what we all know about Romney: Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #65

Poor boy, probably crying in his jello right now Scootaloo Nov 2012 #66

no he's crying in his caviar and foie gras wordpix Nov 2012 #211

Surrounding himself with sycophants may have worked for him in the busines world. Lone_Star_Dem Nov 2012 #67

"And fewer Republicans did: Romney got just over 2 million fewer votes than John McCain." madaboutharry Nov 2012 #68

His handlers told him that no one was clued into the lies..."keep going, we're fooling them" Sheepshank Nov 2012 #69

They had the same access to the information Nate Silver and Sam Wang Grammy23 Nov 2012 #71

And his speech was a bit too nice AlbertCat Nov 2012 #195

should have read nate silver's blog La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2012 #72

one word for him: GOOD shanti Nov 2012 #73

So they lied to him too? Doctor_J Nov 2012 #75

He believed it because... butterfly77 Nov 2012 #90

Amazing. They really didn't know. wildeyed Nov 2012 #76

IMO that's why it took so long for the concession call. Hatchling Nov 2012 #80

Romney did not have a concession speech written beforehand, only a crunch60 Nov 2012 #228

Maybe he was relying on what Ohio SOS Husted told him about the fix being in Jack Rabbit Nov 2012 #81

yes riverSdawn Nov 2012 #206

That's why it took Romney so long to concede. Major Hogwash Nov 2012 #83

OMG. They believed their own spin and truly disbelieved the national polls. PA Democrat Nov 2012 #86

There is something worse. When you know you've won and it's snatched away from you. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #87

Give me a break... EC Nov 2012 #88

After sending so many jobs to China, mebbe Romney has a political future there struggle4progress Nov 2012 #89

I am just overwhelmingly offended as an American that these lying Asshats thought their bullshit AzDar Nov 2012 #97

"A Sucker Punch" DallasNE Nov 2012 #98

Acute Involuntary Reality Syndrome. n/t WheelWalker Nov 2012 #100

Because he can not believe he lost to a descendent of Ham McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #101

Strange, how could they not suspect? treestar Nov 2012 #103

Maybe they'll all stop believing everything they hear on FAUX now? n/t proReality Nov 2012 #106

"He was shellshocked" sickwidit Nov 2012 #107

"They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened." BVictor1 Nov 2012 #108

If they are so stupid that losing surprised them, Vattel Nov 2012 #109

Now I understand why he never looked even slightly embarrassed about his lunatica Nov 2012 #110

I always thought it was because he was told, it was in the bag. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2012 #157

They were not qualified for the jobs if they didn't realize that they were loosing. oldbanjo Nov 2012 #111

But..bu..bub..bu..bu...White Horse/White House...Joseph Smith promised... japple Nov 2012 #112

"shell shock" offensive to use that term with that bunch bluemarkers Nov 2012 #114

My thoughts jmowreader Nov 2012 #115

This seems plausible marions ghost Nov 2012 #208

The part that I noticed was this gollygee Nov 2012 #117

they thought the election was rigged in their favor fascisthunter Nov 2012 #120

"Sucker Punched".. just like he sucker punched All Those Workers who got FIRED Cha Nov 2012 #121

Living in Crystal Towers will do that one day or another. Amonester Nov 2012 #223

Yep..the Stars were Cha Nov 2012 #224

Good. I'm glad it's painful. Payback for Romney's gutting of jobs and industry. F*** em. nt TeamsterDem Nov 2012 #122

HA ha!! Zoeisright Nov 2012 #123

SHOCK johnq45 Nov 2012 #124

Karl you ignorant fuck!- love it demhottie Nov 2012 #129

GW veered wildly off the rode with that quote... waddirum Nov 2012 #238

Yup. Nothing worse for millionaires zentrum Nov 2012 #125

Thats what happens when you believe your own spin. LOL Obama the whole time wasn't southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #126

thumb on the scale Mr. Sinister Nov 2012 #127

I don't buy it, this is just another set of lies but this time flamingdem Nov 2012 #132

Maybe the DOJ quietly called the SOSs in Ohio and Florida Matariki Nov 2012 #138

I tend to agree with you, or maybe the machines were counter-rigged by anonymous. diane in sf Nov 2012 #207

Shell-shocked... ReRe Nov 2012 #133

I want to know WHY exactly they were so sure they were going to win. Matariki Nov 2012 #134

the rent-a-crowds in all the swing states Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #150

Got everything he ever wanted, except to be elected President of the U.S. lexw Nov 2012 #140

If they all hadn't being listening to and watching Fox News Caeser67 Nov 2012 #142

I cried too that night Stewland Nov 2012 #143

So.... they wanted to lead a country that they had no sensibility for. At all. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #144

Now he can ask the Mormon church to posthumously baptize his dream of the presidency. tanyev Nov 2012 #145

Money can't buy you love, or the presidency, mountain grammy Nov 2012 #146

If I could make their loss hurt more I would. Kalidurga Nov 2012 #149

Hopefully he will get permanent Romensia and we never have to hear from him again Shilo Nov 2012 #153

Not as shellshocked as all the people who lose their jobs due to right-wing policies and don't have LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #154

To lie to the people is one thing..... zebe83 Nov 2012 #156

Shows you how much of a bubble they live in Canuckistanian Nov 2012 #158

That is stunning PatSeg Nov 2012 #160

Karma never sleeps n/t Mira Nov 2012 #161

Great article. ProSense Nov 2012 #162

Kind of stings, doesn't it?? I'm sorry but I have absolutely no Raine Nov 2012 #165

"They all were thrust on that stage without understanding what had just happened." Bertha Venation Nov 2012 #166

Anyone have a picture of the crying Queen and her Princess? Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #167

awwwwww CountAllVotes Nov 2012 #168

they can afford a psychiatrist Randomthought Nov 2012 #169

and they need one, esp. if it's a Dem psychiatrist who can lead them to enlightenment wordpix Nov 2012 #210

I can't help thinking none of them have the foggiest clue what "shellshocked" actually means...n/t dumbledork Nov 2012 #171

right you are! CountAllVotes Nov 2012 #174

Exactly! He was "French-door-slammed-in-face-shocked." WinkyDink Nov 2012 #182

ha ha marions ghost Nov 2012 #215

It's amazing how Republicans always believe their own bullshit Deb Nov 2012 #177

Many of us challenged the BS about ReTHUG enthusiasm malaise Nov 2012 #189

There is one good lasting result to the GOP feeding false hope- Deb Nov 2012 #199

WHY DID YOU THINK YOU WERE GOING TO WIN? sendero Nov 2012 #178

No sympathy. AndyA Nov 2012 #179

"shellshocked" AlbertCat Nov 2012 #180

Couldn't have happened to nicer guys...yep...karma....nt AzSweet Nov 2012 #181

"There's nothing worse than when you think you're going to win, and you don't," AlbertCat Nov 2012 #184

Out of fucking touch. dem4ward Nov 2012 #186

You know, when you hear something like this, it really makes you think. ClusterFreak Nov 2012 #187

They used Interplanetary Polling ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #188

Yeah, they were shell shocked that all that money didn't buy them the presidency! Uniblab Nov 2012 #190

Romney shell shocked by loss, lol, ... CRH Nov 2012 #191

excellent post Carolina Nov 2012 #236

Well he was obviously lied ellie Nov 2012 #192

They actually used their own crowd sizes as a metric for enthusiasm? BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #194

I think his advisers were feeding him the same crap they were feeding the media. DCBob Nov 2012 #197

Did the folks up high like Romney really not know? jimlup Nov 2012 #200

Boo fucking hoo hoo. Ann is left with only one dancing horse; doesn't get to be Queen of the US REP Nov 2012 #201

2010 turnout model hoboken123 Nov 2012 #202

Divine Right of Kings is no longer a government policy, you idiots!!! Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #203

... FieryLocks Nov 2012 #205

"We just felt, 'where's our path?'" said a senior adviser. "There wasn't one." wordpix Nov 2012 #209

Good! Especially the Queen. Care Acutely Nov 2012 #213

SALT FOR THE SALT GOD! TEARS FOR THE TEAR POOL! 0rganism Nov 2012 #214

proves how fucking clueless these people are.... spanone Nov 2012 #219

My favorite -- "It was like a sucker punch" Hutzpa Nov 2012 #222

Everything he's done and then everything he pulled, for that crew to be frog marched jsmirman Nov 2012 #225

Fucking Idiots , HAHAHAHHAHAH, just glad they felt the pain JI7 Nov 2012 #226

A couple of days before the election IL Lib Nov 2012 #231

Exactly. There was so much money funding their campaign Quantess Nov 2012 #233

Maybe he should take up drinking with W. jsr Nov 2012 #234

oops upside your head datasuspect Nov 2012 #235

Sure they were mighty confused. Rove promissed victory. montanto Nov 2012 #237