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JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
66. What ... from reading your posts on other topics ... I thought you were White like me!!!!
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jan 2012

(kidding ... kidding !!!!!!!! ... please don't kill me) ... hope I made you laugh. That was my intent.

Here's another example of the failed "You are just like me" assumption ... this one on gender lines.

I was working for a company about 20 years ago when this happened ... but I never forgot this ... and it also shaped me going forward.

The company was/is still a fortune 500, and at the time, I'm working in a 8 story building just outside DC. Every one is a "professional". Men in nice suits, women in "serious" business suits, usually tailored skirts, rarely bright colors, no simple dresses, rarely slacks, but sometimes slacks. The roles, and the business uniform, are tightly defined.

I'm fresh out of graduate school. I was a lower middle class kid who had "made it" ... I'm in the "professional world" now, very excited. The building is very new. The bathrooms are amazing. And my office ... if you've seen the movie "Working Girl", at the end, the office that Melanie Griffith gets ... big office, up high in the building, big window with a great view ... that's kind of office I had.

I'm on my BEST behavior because I'm a little scared. Sure, I've got an MA, and a PhD ... but I still worry that these people are WAY better than me. I've never been in an environment with "professionals" like these, people who wear suits everyday. And I'm worried that at some point, they will figure out that I'm really just a poor kid from Philly, and they'll send me home!

So one day ... I get on the elevator. There are 2 people on that elevator. A man and a woman. Both dressed perfectly for this environment. I get on. No one is speaking. From my perspective, we are three strangers. We work for the same company, but we do not know each other. And so we stand there, quiet, well dressed, and professional.

The elevator stops ... and the woman (who was attractive) gets off the elevator. The doors close. And that's when they other guy stop being professional. He turns to me and says ... "Did you see the ass on that!!??!!" And he goes on, and on.

I was blown away. Here I was working hard in this environment, trying to be "professional" at all times ... I mean ... sure even if I thought that woman was attractive (I was single at the time) ... but I was never going to scream that out loud to anyone, especially some one I did not know.

He assumed I was thinking like him. He was lucky, I could have been from HR working in an EO role ... he'd have been in trouble then.

The elevator stopped again, and he got off. It took me a while to figure out that I should have said something to him.

But that event taught me that "professionals" are just as likely to be bigots, racists, and sexists as any other group.

It helped me see that those who "look like me" may think very differently, and some times in a bad way.

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Impressive piece of writing. cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #1
Did you write this, or is it a copy paste? quinnox Jan 2012 #2
some new bigtree Jan 2012 #4
I'm impressed quinnox Jan 2012 #5
campaign season has it's own narrative bigtree Jan 2012 #6
Wonderful read bigtree, many thanks..n/t monmouth Jan 2012 #16
I think that the blatant racism has been a surprise to many complacent white people. yardwork Jan 2012 #3
yes bigtree Jan 2012 #9
I think a lot of it is the total freak out on the part of racists that we have a black president. yardwork Jan 2012 #17
Initially I thought there was still too much racism to elect a Black president, gateley Jan 2012 #24
My thoughts and agreement Rocky2007 Jan 2012 #45
Nothing dispels Racist sentiment like being a Brother in arms with a black guy MACARD Jan 2012 #46
I have to think that a lot of racism is still in place because people haven't had gateley Jan 2012 #49
reminds me of the story my dad told me about his service in New Guinea bigtree Jan 2012 #50
It's difficult to overcome something that has been taught us since birth. Even for me, gateley Jan 2012 #48
but too many people barbtries Jan 2012 #19
K&R SantorumAnalFrothyMX Jan 2012 #7
something I've noticed riverwalker Jan 2012 #8
sad bigtree Jan 2012 #10
I refer to him as Obama, as I refer to everybody else by their last names. gateley Jan 2012 #25
My mother was so used to calling people by their last names, whathehell Jan 2012 #29
Bwah! Even worse than me! Too funny! nt gateley Jan 2012 #35
I know -- Isn't that great? whathehell Jan 2012 #40
... gateley Jan 2012 #51
Thank you, Gately whathehell Jan 2012 #53
Nope, both my parents are gone but I have gateley Jan 2012 #60
I'm in the same situation. whathehell Jan 2012 #63
beautifully written Tumbulu Jan 2012 #11
"Open racism hasn't been in fashion for decades" Depends on where you're sitting, bigtree Number23 Jan 2012 #12
One of the most moving moments for me on election day, 2008 JDPriestly Jan 2012 #13
K & R ellisonz Jan 2012 #14
SO TRUE... AsahinaKimi Jan 2012 #15
I honestly... ellisonz Jan 2012 #18
There's irrational criticism like racial hatred, but it's very opposite is progressive ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #20
That's an attempt to cover up all the right wing shit he has signed!! pocoloco Jan 2012 #34
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2012 #21
Great stuff. K + R deacon Jan 2012 #22
Thank you! FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #23
Great post. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #26
Outstanding. However you neglected my particular ethnic/religious group grantcart Jan 2012 #27
K'd & R'd DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #28
K & R my2sense Jan 2012 #30
My response (in honor of Martin Luther King weekend). . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2012 #31
That's awesome. Thanks. n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #32
Wow, that gave me chills. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #43
This is an impressive peice of writing tavalon Jan 2012 #33
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awesome SwampG8r Jan 2012 #37
This is incredibly eloquent Prism Jan 2012 #38
Excellent post Bigtree malaise Jan 2012 #39
k&DUrec n/t JTFrog Jan 2012 #41
Thank you so much for this outstanding and eloquent post... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #42
So proud to rec this. Wait Wut Jan 2012 #44
Yep. No doubt about it. Zorra Jan 2012 #47
K&R Rex Jan 2012 #52
A generic white guy's perspective ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #54
thanks for that perspective, Joe bigtree Jan 2012 #56
You have to know that millions of us have your back WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2012 #58
JoePhilly, your post reminded me of a discussionmy husband and I had this weekend... Ecumenist Jan 2012 #64
What ... from reading your posts on other topics ... I thought you were White like me!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #66
Wonderful post Joe, I can't respond right now, but it's great. I'm also a "Generic White Guy." joshcryer Jan 2012 #67
Probably the best Ive read in a long time. SmittynMo Jan 2012 #55
i grew up in a white neighborhood in DesertFlower Jan 2012 #57
Kick NOLALady Jan 2012 #59
Big Tree ... a very fine piece of thinking ... and writing ... rtassi Jan 2012 #61
So very well written, bigtree Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2012 #62
I was with her right up until she introduced "Christ" rtassi Jan 2012 #65
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