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Mariana

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35. No, not from their relatives. They can take from the estate.

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They could lose the house -- to Medicaid [View all] SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 OP

Everything is working against us liberal N proud Mar 2023 #1

I would rather be euthanized than put that burden on my estate SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #2

It wouldn't put a burden on your heirs though. pnwmom Mar 2023 #47

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2023 #77

So if the 2nd spouse dies, do they get the same deal? SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #95

Yes, if there's anything left in the house, it covers both. If the house still pnwmom Mar 2023 #100

No, it is an enormous help to many. Hortensis Mar 2023 #11

The GOP health plan, if you get sick die quickly. n/t Marcus IM Mar 2023 #3

What's the point of Medicaid if they can claw it back when you die? Something reeks. nt crickets Mar 2023 #4

Notice it's only for poor people on Medicaid. Anyone know if Medicare does this on wealthy users? Samrob Mar 2023 #10

Medicare only covers certain illnesses SouthernDem4ever Mar 2023 #15

Anyone who needs longterm care etc. Meowmee Mar 2023 #50

For seniors, Medicaid is the backup plan for Medicare. People on Medicare pnwmom Mar 2023 #58

This Is A Bit RobinA Mar 2023 #28

Yes, I believe most states have pretty big limits on Ilsa Mar 2023 #74

The point of Medicaid is to make sure there's care for everybody, that no one will lack for care pnwmom Mar 2023 #57

Having read up on it a bit, it makes more sense to me now. crickets Mar 2023 #59

I know it's confusing because we're used to thinking about insurance, pnwmom Mar 2023 #65

This is absolutely insane. Governments should not be acting as health debt collectors for the poor. LonePirate Mar 2023 #5

From their relatives? Nictuku Mar 2023 #8

There is a Caregiver Child Exemption that would possibly protect her home: W_HAMILTON Mar 2023 #13

Yes seek an Eldercare Attorney, everyone listen to this Captain Zero Mar 2023 #30

And in this case the spouse is alive. Ilsa Mar 2023 #75

Medicaid RobinA Mar 2023 #29

They won;t come after inthewind21 Mar 2023 #33

No, not from their relatives. They can take from the estate. Mariana Mar 2023 #35

What is insane? People who enter nursing homes with fully paid-for homes aren't "poor." pnwmom Mar 2023 #48

Well-said. This is pretty much how it works. When we were getting ready to Ilsa Mar 2023 #76

Seems fair Zorro Mar 2023 #6

Caregiver families can't recover their costs either leftstreet Mar 2023 #9

Amen! W_HAMILTON Mar 2023 #14

It's not true that Medicaid doesn't help caregivers. In my state, even a family member pnwmom Mar 2023 #79

Medicaid is administered by the states themselves and, as a result, vary widely by state. W_HAMILTON Mar 2023 #80

Your mother is bedridden and requires round the clock care. It's insane pnwmom Mar 2023 #90

I am not sure what the "Greenhouse model" is, but I will look into it. W_HAMILTON Mar 2023 #91

Here's some info about The Greenhouse Model: small nursing homes, pnwmom Mar 2023 #93

Fuck medicaid? sarisataka Mar 2023 #17

Yes. They force people into poverty before helping leftstreet Mar 2023 #40

Trillions for war. Tens of trillions as the river of time flows by. Celerity Mar 2023 #42

Preserving inheritance over medical care sarisataka Mar 2023 #43

Now do both n/t leftstreet Mar 2023 #53

No one is entitled to an inheritance. I got nothing financial from my parents pnwmom Mar 2023 #87

But a nursing home is entitled to saved earnings leftstreet Mar 2023 #88

Why shouldn't people pay for their own nursing home care with earnings they've saved, pnwmom Mar 2023 #89

So, no student loan forgiveness then? leftstreet Mar 2023 #96

Biden's decision on student loans was based on a law passed after 9/11 pnwmom Mar 2023 #99

They haven't forced people into poverty. When a person's assets have run out, pnwmom Mar 2023 #61

When assets run out... leftstreet Mar 2023 #71

When my mother needed the care in a nursing home, we were grateful she could obtain it pnwmom Mar 2023 #72

Thanks for your informative comments. A lot of us Hortensis Mar 2023 #81

The big take away for me pnwmom Mar 2023 #83

"start looking BEFORE we were desperate." :) You did get that across! Hortensis Mar 2023 #85

I know a woman who provided her mother care at home and Medicaid paid for it. pnwmom Mar 2023 #78

WOW inthewind21 Mar 2023 #36

Right. And I know another woman who got certified (took a first aid class) to be pnwmom Mar 2023 #86

But the caretakers can be paid, if the parent has a paid-for home, which is what the OP is about. pnwmom Mar 2023 #49

Does nothing for renters leftstreet Mar 2023 #52

Of course Medicaid does something for renters! Renters without assets qualify for pnwmom Mar 2023 #55

Yes, they can. Medicaid also reimburses costs for in home care, pnwmom Mar 2023 #60

States recover .55 percent of what they spend on Medicaid. Not 55 percent: about half a percent. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2023 #22

Eat the rich Fullduplexxx Mar 2023 #7

All this because our govt. refuses to fund healthcare out of general taxation. area51 Mar 2023 #12

Considering the average cost of a nursing home is between xmas74 Mar 2023 #16

EXACTLY. That's how my siblings and I felt after my mother died. pnwmom Mar 2023 #51

I work with patients every single day, helping them apply for Medicaid. xmas74 Mar 2023 #56

Yes! Long term care is a nightmare maxrandb Mar 2023 #18

Instead of moving her to another facility, you could have chosen a facility pnwmom Mar 2023 #62

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding sarisataka Mar 2023 #19

You mean Medicaid doesn't exist for the purpose Mariana Mar 2023 #23

LOL. I am also surprised by the lack of information many have -- even people with older relatives.nt pnwmom Mar 2023 #63

Pay it back? RussBLib Mar 2023 #20

The surviving families aren't required to pay anything back. Mariana Mar 2023 #24

This is wrong maxrandb Mar 2023 #37

I imagine very few of the top 1-5% rely on Medicaid. Mariana Mar 2023 #38

Well, Let's Say RobinA Mar 2023 #31

The way my Depression-era mother did it wasn't as painful as some might think. pnwmom Mar 2023 #70

This is a good incentive for people to commit suicide rather than receive longterm care. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #21

They don't impoverish their families. Mariana Mar 2023 #25

But the heirs won't get what they take from the estate Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #26

Lots of people don't get inheritances. Mariana Mar 2023 #27

The parent's estate is being spent on the parent's care, till the parent runs out of assets, pnwmom Mar 2023 #68

Not sure inthewind21 Mar 2023 #32

Nazis often deemed infirmed as useless eaters.... Nat-Cs do the same today... More later... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #34

What are you talking about? Medicaid is a government program that takes care of people's pnwmom Mar 2023 #67

I'm referring to the state suing the family after the fact. It's abhorrent. MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #69

Except inthewind21 Mar 2023 #97

The state uses a private contractor to collect through "legal proceedings"... MayReasonRule Mar 2023 #98

This is Normal NowISeetheLight Mar 2023 #39

Some of the replies in this thread are archetypal examples of why the US is a ferociously unjust Celerity Mar 2023 #41

Some of the replies are acknowledging sarisataka Mar 2023 #44

The ones I was referring to are doing more than acknowledging reality. nt Celerity Mar 2023 #45

Medicaid is actually something that isn't unjust. pnwmom Mar 2023 #64

:) Some who dream of economic equality for everyone Hortensis Mar 2023 #82

Some people think that a parent's assets should not be spent on the parent while they're alive, pnwmom Mar 2023 #84

The for-profit nursing home industry has a term for this process.. Volaris Mar 2023 #46

My mother doesn't own the home she lives in MissB Mar 2023 #54

Unfortunately, this is not uncommon Texasgal Mar 2023 #66

The spouse is alive and may remain in the home. Ilsa Mar 2023 #73

I could be wrong, but I don't even think you're allowed to own a home ecstatic Mar 2023 #92

The problem in trying to distribute most of the property ahead of time pnwmom Mar 2023 #94