Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

TygrBright

(21,316 posts)
17. Yet another reason to slog through the difficult process of getting regular Medicare.
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 01:37 PM
Mar 2023

They make getting "Advantage" plans incredibly easy, with sales people pestering you from six months to the day before you turn 65. They send snail mail, they call, they offer "free" consultations and "assistance" navigating your Medicare startup, they have glitzy sales materials and they'll walk you through every step of the process with wonderful helpfulness.

They have endless patience with your questions and will comb through databases and plan guides to determine exactly what particular thing is theoretically covered at what level under what circumstances and for how long. They'll compare pharmacopeias and coverage levels between Advantage plans for particular medications. They'll identify network providers for you and help you figure out whether your specialist is in-network for which plans for hours on end, if need be. They'll do whatever it takes to get you to sign up...

...until you tell them you don't want an Advantage plan, you just want plain old Medicare. Part A and Part B, plus a Part D for prescription drug coverage and maybe a Medigap supplemental plan.

They'll try to talk you out of it by pointing out all the "extras" that the Advantage plans offer, and how CHEAP they are and how EASILY everything can be set up and "customized" for you, and it's all combined into ONE plan, no need to manage Part B plus Part D plus a supplemental plan, just one plan, one payment, and easy-peasy extra stuff!

And if you say "Nope, just want Medicare, Part A and Part B, plus Part D for prescriptions and maybe a Medigap supplemental plan" they drop you like a hot potato and leave you to the mercy of government websites where the most help you get is FAQ pages and plan comparison pages, but no live human beings to actually answer your questions.

But it's still worth it. Stick with it. Use the government sites. Put up with the inconvenience of having to wait and spend another couple of months going back and forth to get your auto-pay set up for Part B. Once you are signed up for "real" Medicare, you're in charge of your care, there are no networks to traverse, no pre-authorizations to see a specialist, etc. Yes, sometimes it can be hard to find a provider with a caseload that will allow them to take another Medicare patient, but it's still WAY easier than navigating the thorny thickets of "Advantagedom" where AI monsters lurk everywhere.

helpfully,
Bright

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

AI sounds Republican. sarcasmo Mar 2023 #1
IOW, profit-driven. ariadne0614 Mar 2023 #11
Kicking for Visibility SheltieLover Mar 2023 #2
'That's proprietary' EYESORE 9001 Mar 2023 #3
Everything programmatic is AI Renew Deal Mar 2023 #4
Wow. An AI "death panel". The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2023 #5
Good one! keithbvadu2 Mar 2023 #10
just had to deal with Navi health for my mother's rehab in a nursing home. Kota Mar 2023 #6
as I rapidly approach 65...... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #7
Please look carefully at original Medicare. The Advantage plans are insurance profit centers. Lonestarblue Mar 2023 #12
Anyone tempted to sign up for an Advantage plan dflprincess Mar 2023 #14
If feels overwhelming at first. Big Blue Marble Mar 2023 #13
I had no idea that Advantage plans were privatized Meicare. 1WorldHope Mar 2023 #15
As Others Said... ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #33
Algorithms Should Be Eliminated WiVoter Mar 2023 #8
I'm 63 I don't believe I will ever see a penny of SS and won't live to Medicare age. Runningdawg Mar 2023 #9
Now that is some sad shit to hear. Could you qualify for Medicaid now? 1WorldHope Mar 2023 #16
I just watched a friend go through the process. He was homeless before he saw any money Runningdawg Mar 2023 #21
I get it. I don't know where you live, but aging services is a federal program that covers the whole 1WorldHope Mar 2023 #27
... progressoid Mar 2023 #18
you can start collecting early ss benefits.. getagrip_already Mar 2023 #25
Yet another reason to slog through the difficult process of getting regular Medicare. TygrBright Mar 2023 #17
well said!!! MissB Mar 2023 #19
Plus 100. "I did that." usonian Mar 2023 #20
How exactly is that much different from regular Health Care plans? PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2023 #22
The Advantage Plans don't have a monopoly on cruelty! usonian Mar 2023 #23
Advantage plans are a scam. RUN The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #24
I have often wondered if a certain level of complexity in healthcare_ Prairie_Seagull Mar 2023 #26
These are tough decisions, made harder by the flood of propaganda. usonian Mar 2023 #28
Solid advise, for me and my file cabinets full, I have mostly figured shit out. Prairie_Seagull Mar 2023 #29
You might speak to friends. But that's a smallish sample of a large population. usonian Mar 2023 #30
glad to see the Boston Globe picked up this story. IcyPeas Mar 2023 #31
Thanks! Bean Town needs to know. usonian Mar 2023 #32
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Denied by AI: How Medica...»Reply #17