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Zeitghost

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21. Proving intent

Reply to Atticus (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 24, 2023, 07:53 PM

Mar 2023

With regards to actions is different than proving the "true" intent of their speech. It also doesn't come with the same potential to infringe on the free speech rights of everyone. That is why the Brandenberg Test exists; criminalizing vague speech because "We all know what they really meant" is a very slippery slope.

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Could a statute be drafted that would establish "stochastic terrorism" as a crime while [View all] Atticus Mar 2023 OP

Well... WarGamer Mar 2023 #1

I asked a question. You respond with an attack. nt Atticus Mar 2023 #3

That's not an attack. WarGamer Mar 2023 #4

Uh-huh---accusing me of trying to "out-authoritarian" the authoritarians is not an attack? I have Atticus Mar 2023 #10

Word choice and tone sounded to me like an attack. wnylib Mar 2023 #13

That's the difficult thing about online conversation... WarGamer Mar 2023 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Zeitghost Mar 2023 #15

When considering expanding the power of law enforcement and diminishing freedoms of citizens RockRaven Mar 2023 #2

Once you assume that level of corruption... Silent3 Mar 2023 #18

Thank you. nt Atticus Mar 2023 #19

I can give you a list of who would be charged under it before anyone *you* would want to be WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2023 #5

That is high quality stuff bucolic_frolic Mar 2023 #6

And also... WarGamer Mar 2023 #7

Good question. ananda Mar 2023 #8

Any law would still exempt the rich and powerful. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #9

Yes, a federal law, and probably 50 state laws, is already in place. Hortensis Mar 2023 #11

How would you go about proving someone's state of mind? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #12

Prosecutors are required to prove a defendant's state of mind every day in prosecutions where Atticus Mar 2023 #14

Proving intent Zeitghost Mar 2023 #21

No thanks n/t SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2023 #16

I ain't touching this one with a 10,000 foot pole. Initech Mar 2023 #17

The holding in Brandenburg is fine. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2023 #20