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fugop

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35. Wrong.

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:41 PM

Nov 2012

He's not the same president. Wake up. He's learned things he could only learn on the job. He's got the leverage that comes from tax cuts expiring even if he does NOTHING. And perhaps most important, he no longer has to try and please the left and the right and everyone in between because the elections are OVER! No need to campaign ever again. Now we'll see, I suspect, what he's really made of. (Hint: I think it's strong stuff, not weak.)

So right now, we have no idea how BO will govern yet. He's got a completely different dynamic guiding him. Will he be stronger? Weaker? More progressive? Less? Guess what? WE DON'T KNOW!

But by all means, proceeeeed, governor. Assume you know from this one speech that the president is weak. I'm not buying it. But it's your right, so enjoy.

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Obama To House: "I've got this pen. I'm ready to sign the bill right away." [View all] kpete Nov 2012 OP

Not exactly strong leadership. godai Nov 2012 #1

That's what he did. He told the House to pass the Senate bill (nt) Recursion Nov 2012 #2

Extend the Bush tax cuts...problem solved. n/t godai Nov 2012 #4

For 97% of households Recursion Nov 2012 #10

How about something new...phase out all the Bush tax cuts. godai Nov 2012 #21

That's what he's doing. Qutzupalotl Nov 2012 #24

What I've heard is Obama saying to make the lower tax cuts PERMANENT. n/t godai Nov 2012 #26

Yes... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #34

Seriously?! mac56 Nov 2012 #3

On the contrary. It is concise, to the point, and firm. MineralMan Nov 2012 #5

+1 DonRedwood Nov 2012 #7

Agree. Asking is not leading. n/t Dawgs Nov 2012 #6

You can ask while showing your fangs. Skidmore Nov 2012 #8

He needs to show his fangs at a press conference...answer questions. n/t godai Nov 2012 #11

That's fine, but asking and doing are two different things. Dawgs Nov 2012 #22

Banging a shoe on a table is so effective though.... jberryhill Nov 2012 #31

You are incorrect. The wise leader always asks that people do things. MineralMan Nov 2012 #9

BS. Real leadership is following through on what you say. Dawgs Nov 2012 #16

Yes, indeed it is. MineralMan Nov 2012 #20

As far as I can see in the op, Obama didn't "ask" anything. He told them to pass shraby Nov 2012 #12

Is that different than the last time he drew a line? n/t Dawgs Nov 2012 #13

Post #9 indicates wise leaders don't do that. n/t godai Nov 2012 #15

Wow, two different posters characterized that differently. n/t Qutzupalotl Nov 2012 #32

And telling them puts the power in their hands--they don't do it, Obama looks weak. DonRedwood Nov 2012 #14

OK..first step to get them to do SOMETHING or he can accuse them of inaction. godai Nov 2012 #17

Agree. I think it's too early to give him the title of 'ultimate leader' Dawgs Nov 2012 #18

He is coming off of huge momentum Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #19

Leadership is not "demanding", esp when he has no hammer. He cant force Congress to do anything. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #38

President Obama. Here's a new idea. A defense tax. godai Nov 2012 #23

Wield that Big Stick Bro! tk2kewl Nov 2012 #25

Heh. fugop Nov 2012 #27

Actually it's been 4 years and 3 days. The same person is President...same Congress. n/t godai Nov 2012 #28

Wrong. fugop Nov 2012 #35

Right there with you. Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #29

This. Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #30

Obama will veto any bill extending tax cuts for those making more than $250K... SidDithers Nov 2012 #33

Seriously, will any republicans go to the White House? Teabaggers will go berserk if Boehner or AlinPA Nov 2012 #36

Let all of those tax cuts expire. All of them. Autumn Nov 2012 #37

I agree. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #39