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The Jungle 1

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74. Your question is what always happens. It is a diversion.

Tue Mar 28, 2023, 08:31 AM

Mar 2023

It is called picking the fly shit out of the pepper. Much like the argument of what is an assault weapon. This game will not save the babies who are torn apart and left in pools of blood.

Bottom line more children die from gun violence than any other cause. They want teachers to carry guns and going to church requires a gun. We are a failed society at war with ourselves. I want solutions not debate over if it is happening and where it is worse.

But to your point.
https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/higher-rates-of-mass-shootings-in-us-states-with-more-relaxed-gun-control-laws/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/5504/
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/fact-sheet-weak-gun-laws-are-driving-increases-in-violent-crime/
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/these-states-have-the-highest-rates-of-gun-violence-and-deaths

I am not sure why you needed to ask me this question when a 30 second search provides a long lists of studies and facts.

Lax Gun laws are taking away my right to "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness". When will my rights be respected?

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Opinion: The Second Amendment is moot. Useless. Unnecessary. Repeal it. [View all] Roland99 Mar 2023 OP

Absolutely EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #1

If we repeal the 10th, then the Supreme Court literally last word jimfields33 Mar 2023 #2

That mechanism would like entail all out revolution and would not have a very happy ending for many. Roland99 Mar 2023 #3

The 10th allows red state dictators and oppression EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #4

or it would allow red politicians to run the whole country no matter what when they have majority. jimfields33 Mar 2023 #5

How so? EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #8

Without States Rights/10th Zeitghost Mar 2023 #15

Agree with repealing the 2nd amendment, but not the 10th. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #41

Article 5 of the US Constitution is the mechanism. AZ8theist Mar 2023 #39

An Article 5 convention for proposing amendments Seeking Serenity Mar 2023 #78

Do you really think that states would vote to repeal the 10th Amendment? friend of a friend Mar 2023 #63

Then get a new Constitution that allows more federal power EnergizedLib Mar 2023 #79

The states won't vote for it. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #85

Why not bag the whole "constitution" thing altogether? It keeps politicians from doing good, right? Pete Ross Junior Mar 2023 #6

Really? Strawman much? Roland99 Mar 2023 #7

The Constitution should be thrown in the garbage honestly Marius25 Mar 2023 #11

Starting from scratch in the current political atmosphere wnylib Mar 2023 #48

The 2nd Amendment is not going to be repealed.....Period!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #9

It would take a war, or maybe two to get it repealed. Initech Mar 2023 #10

I agree, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #12

and then what? GenXer47 Mar 2023 #28

I never said anything about attacking anyone, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #29

I'm 79 and I still do a kill shot at 400 meters with my M-14 with iron sights. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #65

First rifle I carried in Vietnam, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #67

I never fired the M-16. I can't believe they didn't even have cleaning kits at first. friend of a friend Mar 2023 #68

We have had this debate in the past concerning the 2nd. I support repeal. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #38

First off, I've never said I oppose a repeal, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #43

I don't think I said you did or didn't support repeal. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #47

+100. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #49

You're right about that not being a popular opinion. 😉 ShazzieB Mar 2023 #52

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #53

Certainly not something that would probably even happen in the rest of my lifetime Roland99 Mar 2023 #13

Well, I'm 75, so definitely not in the time I have left on Planet Earth, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #16

Peace Roland99 Mar 2023 #18

You're mistaken about procedure dpibel Mar 2023 #32

Maybe not, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #33

There's good reason to argue that it WOULD take a constitutional convention to repeal it Bucky Mar 2023 #102

AGREE Smackdown2019 Mar 2023 #56

Really with I could rec your post, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #57

Weapons that some posters like to call assault (that is how it is spelled) weapons former9thward Mar 2023 #103

Sorry, using a cellphone typing. Smackdown2019 Mar 2023 #104

Yes that was a fully automatic machine gun. former9thward Mar 2023 #105

They had Headlines Shooting back then Smackdown2019 Mar 2023 #106

Yeah, but we can treat gun fetishes the same as we do drunk driving or smoking. hunter Mar 2023 #99

You have put it quite succinctly. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #100

In an ideal world, sure. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #14

The same things were said about abortion!!!! The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #40

Reproductive choice isn't a constitutional amendment maxsolomon Mar 2023 #58

The point is clear The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #69

Do you have stats to back up that claim on states w/ lower mass shootings? maxsolomon Mar 2023 #71

Your question is what always happens. It is a diversion. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #74

Thanks for the top link. maxsolomon Mar 2023 #80

You are correct I am very angry over the issue of dead, bloody children! The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #87

Let's focus on real world solutions. Opening the Constitution to change will hand it over to maggots NBachers Mar 2023 #17

And we do not want these assholes turning this country fascist authoritarian. Initech Mar 2023 #23

Multiple maggot states are already in line for a Constitutional Convention. The threshold isn't far NBachers Mar 2023 #34

I'm afraid you're right, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2023 #35

whatever "militias" there are are not "well-regulated" and they want to kill US. Domestic terrorists Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #19

The 2nd Amendment is a potential national suicide pact. It has allowed the RW to accrue hundreds of Celerity Mar 2023 #20

Agreed. So, let's do what's needed to repeal that amendment. MineralMan Mar 2023 #21

Repealing the 2A is a long overdue first step to solving this problem LonePirate Mar 2023 #22

Yup. It's just a tool for firearms manufacturers and, consequently, those KPN Mar 2023 #24

If the supreme court would rule that 2A is not for personal self defense, then there is no need Jburt301 Mar 2023 #25

129 mass shootings Traildogbob Mar 2023 #26

So, since that is never going to happen, what is your Plan B? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2023 #27

Jburt in post 21 hit on it....courts need to change their interpretation Roland99 Mar 2023 #30

Un-stacking the court inthewind21 Mar 2023 #42

it has to start at local levels Roland99 Mar 2023 #50

Local inthewind21 Mar 2023 #60

The wording of the 2nd is not even gramerical IMO Disaffected Mar 2023 #31

Convince inthewind21 Mar 2023 #44

I think it was how they worded things at the time. thatdemguy Mar 2023 #107

Funny how the right wingers are originalists except for when it comes to the 2nd Am. nt SunSeeker Mar 2023 #36

+1 and another 100 for good measure. yonder Mar 2023 #51

The message needs to be making it "safe" for law abiding gun owners to keep their guns. cstanleytech Mar 2023 #37

The interpretation of the 2nd has been perverted. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #45

This Johonny Mar 2023 #86

Yup and Burger was a conservative. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #88

I'm a civilized country that would happen. BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #46

I totally agree wendyb-NC Mar 2023 #54

We need more mothers like... The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #55

Not sure inthewind21 Mar 2023 #61

Yes I understand The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #70

More than brave inthewind21 Mar 2023 #81

The pictures of Emmett Till are still out there. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #89

I know they do inthewind21 Mar 2023 #92

Same response over and over again year after year. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #98

I remember being taught about "blue laws". jaxexpat Mar 2023 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Mar 2023 #62

I remember inthewind21 Mar 2023 #64

Wow! I rarely get misunderstood quite as enthusiastically. jaxexpat Mar 2023 #66

I didn't inthewind21 Mar 2023 #82

Blue laws intelpug Mar 2023 #72

We had prohibition. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #75

Yes, we did inthewind21 Mar 2023 #83

It was repealed because jury nullification. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #90

Not completely inthewind21 Mar 2023 #94

Prohibition intelpug Mar 2023 #84

The 2nd is an amendment to our constitution just like prohibition was an amendment. The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #91

Answer the question inthewind21 Mar 2023 #93

Wow I feel like I am in 6th grade The Jungle 1 Mar 2023 #97

Never going to happen Calculating Mar 2023 #73

Not going to happen, and even proposing it is a waste of time. GaYellowDawg Mar 2023 #76

"The thing that has changed has been the culture. In the early/late 80's, guns were a tool." Zeitghost Mar 2023 #77

The 1st amendment needs a little tweaking to. fescuerescue Mar 2023 #95

If it's moot, then it doesn't need to be repeals. SYFROYH Mar 2023 #96

The sun is too hot. We need to cool it off and thereby end global warming Bucky Mar 2023 #101