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Aussie105

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41. The legal system will deal with Trump fairly and squarely.

Fri Mar 31, 2023, 08:49 PM

Mar 2023

Unless you are on some related jury, you can think either way because it isn't relevant.

But watching Trump over the years can only lead to one logical conclusion.

Strange thing is, Fox can bleat about Trump's innocence, but the rest of the media can't push the 'guilty as sin' line.

Sounds fair, right?

Hopefully, all the talking heads on Fox will spontaneously self-combust in the near future. And many MAGAts.

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No, MSNBC and CNN.... [View all] PCIntern Mar 2023 OP

I've said this for every case ever lol Beautiful Disaster Mar 2023 #1

I hear ya! Roy Rolling Apr 2023 #64

+1000. Paladin Mar 2023 #2

Yes you can presume him guilty if you want, I do too. But under our laws you are innocent doc03 Mar 2023 #3

Agreed. I do however acknowledge that this is part of a previously litigated case. mjvpi Mar 2023 #10

Predicting the outcome of an upcoming court case is never smart. Aussie105 Mar 2023 #49

Oh, come on, people do that all the time. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #54

but then watch for treestar Apr 2023 #86

I'm not sure what you mean by "accept." ShazzieB Apr 2023 #107

I thought ok was innocent. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #102

true, anything official will call Lee Harvey Oswald treestar Apr 2023 #85

Fuck him, indeed! ffr Mar 2023 #4

Amen. Joinfortmill Mar 2023 #5

GOP members have widely presumed that this is a politically motivated prosecution Jarqui Mar 2023 #6

Why did his DOJ lock up Cohen for the same crime? onecaliberal Mar 2023 #28

Certainly not because DOJ presumed guilt. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #47

After DOJ threatened to indict his wife. There is evidence that Barr tried to withdraw the plea i.e. Marcuse Apr 2023 #59

Relevance? Beastly Boy Apr 2023 #77

Wrong thread. Sorry. Marcuse Apr 2023 #78

Were you responding to the OP or to my post? Beastly Boy Apr 2023 #79

I'm with Speaker Pelosi MichMan Mar 2023 #7

That's not what she sez in private I'm certain. PCIntern Mar 2023 #8

Pelosi is restating the Rule of Law we should all salute. All the Rules, for All, Equally. Alexander Of Assyria Mar 2023 #14

No she isn't SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2023 #51

He doesn't have to prove his innocence. LakeArenal Mar 2023 #29

Trials are never about proving innocence. whopis01 Apr 2023 #65

You know, PCIntern Apr 2023 #69

Your OP seemed pretty understandable to me whopis01 Apr 2023 #70

Ok... PCIntern Apr 2023 #74

I think you really misread my post whopis01 Apr 2023 #84

Apologies. PCIntern Apr 2023 #87

Yes, she did say "prove" innocence, which was wrong. soldierant Apr 2023 #99

We still have the right to a fair trial in this country. Just A Box Of Rain Mar 2023 #9

Did I say that? PCIntern Mar 2023 #12

You don't have to presume innocence, but you can be sued for presuming guilt. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #52

Oh my inthewind21 Mar 2023 #11

I've been on juries and was extremely sensitive to my role and the law. PCIntern Mar 2023 #13

Serving on a jury is completely different from watching a trial from the sidelines. ShazzieB Mar 2023 #56

How dare you make sense? PCIntern Apr 2023 #62

Yeah and today OJ himself basically says, I did it. Captain Zero Apr 2023 #73

there were people who wanted to treestar Apr 2023 #88

Even knowing a person did something does not mean they are guilty. grantcart Mar 2023 #15

Ok... PCIntern Mar 2023 #17

There is a yawning chasm between believing DJT is an "innocent babe," something no one here believes Just A Box Of Rain Mar 2023 #21

Jesus.... PCIntern Apr 2023 #63

You are the one who feels morally outraged here? Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #76

of course he would have been treestar Apr 2023 #91

but if he is acquitted treestar Apr 2023 #90

Actually it does mean exactly that whopis01 Apr 2023 #67

Rubbish grantcart Apr 2023 #83

+1 treestar Apr 2023 #93

Let's try to be a little more honest in our arguments. whopis01 Apr 2023 #98

lipstick on a pig grantcart Apr 2023 #100

I notice you avoided my question whopis01 Apr 2023 #101

I find your arguments quite a bit different from those in the OP Beastly Boy Apr 2023 #106

My thoughts are my own and my arguments are my own whopis01 Apr 2023 #109

I take it that your objections to my post is limited to its last paragraph. Beastly Boy Apr 2023 #110

You keep missing the key point whopis01 Apr 2023 #111

We are talking about legal definitions for presumption and accusation, aren't we? Beastly Boy Apr 2023 #112

You are missing the point and quite purposely so whopis01 Apr 2023 #113

You are not talking about legal definitions or presumptions except when you are talking about Beastly Boy Apr 2023 #114

they know the law does though treestar Apr 2023 #92

Of course. I don't think anyone is saying otherwise. n/t whopis01 Apr 2023 #97

Yes, they know they have the highest burden of proof treestar Apr 2023 #89

OMG edisdead Mar 2023 #16

I think so... PCIntern Mar 2023 #18

and the same ones edisdead Mar 2023 #19

Once again, slightlv Mar 2023 #35

ery well stated edisdead Mar 2023 #50

I don't care what they say malaise Mar 2023 #20

This came to mind today. How long can Ts lawyers drag this out Boomerproud Mar 2023 #22

PCIntern........ Upthevibe Mar 2023 #23

Right on!! Downsouthjukin Mar 2023 #24

In order to preserve his innocence and the world, Tetrachloride Mar 2023 #25

Very much feeling that way myself. Criminal mob boss, life-long con artist, tax cheat, rapist. Evolve Dammit Mar 2023 #26

And if everybody was like that relayerbob Mar 2023 #27

way to completely misread the OP ProfessorPlum Apr 2023 #72

I wanted him arrested the moment Biden was inaugurated. panader0 Mar 2023 #30

They should have arrested him in late January of '21. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #40

Indeed. TimeToGo Mar 2023 #31

Getting really tired The Wizard Mar 2023 #32

Agree. Most humans are equipped with an ability to observe, notice, retain information, evaluate wiggs Mar 2023 #33

I agree. If they don't see the facts then they are being stupid. LiberalFighter Mar 2023 #34

You don't have to justify your presumption of guilt in any way. Beastly Boy Mar 2023 #36

Yeah, I'm'a presume him guilty... dchill Mar 2023 #37

I hope the Manhattan DA shows Chump the same courtesy FakeNoose Mar 2023 #38

Nobody from his camp is even trying to deny the hush money thing. Sky Jewels Mar 2023 #39

The legal system will deal with Trump fairly and squarely. Aussie105 Mar 2023 #41

The Star Chamber was an awesome movie. hamsterjill Mar 2023 #42

I loved it too! I think it needs a remake! nt Lisa0825 Apr 2023 #58

Me, Three ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #95

That movie scared the crap out of me ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2023 #43

True Dis' Baked Potato Mar 2023 #44

A car is headed right towards me. Let me first find out what make, model, year and license. usonian Mar 2023 #45

The reason most media are focussed on the hush money charge Aussie105 Mar 2023 #46

...K&R... spanone Mar 2023 #48

News doesn't realize we know 1,000,000% more than most people ! nt Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2023 #53

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2023 #55

Agreed stage left Apr 2023 #57

Agree he is guilty of so many crimes Meowmee Apr 2023 #60

Yep... PCIntern Apr 2023 #61

there's not above the law; it is more that treestar Apr 2023 #94

That is also true Meowmee Apr 2023 #104

HEAR, HEAR Skittles Apr 2023 #66

Not only that... JPPaverage Apr 2023 #68

The Trump-justice-tour has us peeking under the skirt of the American legal system. jaxexpat Apr 2023 #71

i was just yelling this out loud yesterday. NO! IDIOTS!! He has a LEGAL presumption of innocence. bullimiami Apr 2023 #75

Hard to argue with this peggysue2 Apr 2023 #80

They never tire of being wrong for the owners. pwb Apr 2023 #81

K&R Blue Owl Apr 2023 #82

K&R ProfessorGAC Apr 2023 #96

There is no doubt about his guilt. LiberalFighter Apr 2023 #103

Hopefully they can seat a jury that understands MichMan Apr 2023 #105