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ThomThom

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76. I wondered the same thing

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 07:40 PM

Nov 2012

either the fix was in and we overwhelmed the % they flipped which is very likely considering how close the final %s were ( should not have even been close) or someone intercepted their vote changing moves and set them back to the correct numbers.
I can't believe romney was not getting accurate polling numbers and knew he was behind. Roves antics on TV pretty much show the confidence they had. It would have taken more than Ohio to win so I suspect the fix was in in at least 3 states, Ohio, Virginia, and Florida probably 4 which all should have been larger percentages for Obama. The answers will never be known unless someone comes forward with the truth.
He was just so confident he would win and so were the people on Fox. Very suspicious in my opinion.

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About two weeks ago, femrap Nov 2012 #92

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also a possibility but I think Rove would have known ThomThom Nov 2012 #78

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