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Gaugamela

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5. My understanding is that the prosecutor only needs to prove intent to

Tue Apr 4, 2023, 11:11 PM

Apr 2023

violate another law, but they don’t have to prove he actually did break the law. So my guess is that Alvin Bragg has the goods on Trump’s intent to violate federal campaign finance law.

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I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see why Trump's 1st degree felony charge [View all] pnwmom Apr 2023 OP

Those crimes were not charged. former9thward Apr 2023 #1

What is uncharted is using a Federal law, like the campaign finance law, pnwmom Apr 2023 #4

Trump was not charged with tax evasion. former9thward Apr 2023 #6

But the prosecutor's statement says this: pnwmom Apr 2023 #11

If it was illegal why wasn't he charged? former9thward Apr 2023 #14

No inthewind21 Apr 2023 #41

Not even close Johnny2X2X Apr 2023 #7

If its done "all the time" then someone should be able to point to a specific case. former9thward Apr 2023 #8

JustSecurity did an analysis. pnwmom Apr 2023 #12

And if you look at those cases the defendants were charged with the underlying crime(s). former9thward Apr 2023 #49

Bragg says that the underlying crimes were to do with both NY state and Federal election law pnwmom Apr 2023 #50

Any juror is going to ask why the crimes were not charged. former9thward Apr 2023 #51

Of course a juror will. But the details don't have to be included in the indictment/ statement now. pnwmom Apr 2023 #52

Or inthewind21 Apr 2023 #42

I tried. former9thward Apr 2023 #48

they don't have to be dsc Apr 2023 #44

I'd guess for many folks a crime isn't a crime until there is a conviction Model35mech Apr 2023 #45

Defrauding the American public NJCher Apr 2023 #2

Yes. NY State taxes. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #3

After nearly 40 years in California Retrograde Apr 2023 #9

My understanding is that the prosecutor only needs to prove intent to Gaugamela Apr 2023 #5

I don't agree with your assessment but even if that were true former9thward Apr 2023 #10

They don't have to include every detail in the statement of facts pnwmom Apr 2023 #13

The prosecutor can't hide evidence. former9thward Apr 2023 #15

It's not hidden. Read the statement, especially this part: pnwmom Apr 2023 #18

That is not tax evasion. former9thward Apr 2023 #19

It is classic tax evasion. This allowed Trump to take a huge tax deduction $420,000 pnwmom Apr 2023 #20

Yes but whether it was Sgent Apr 2023 #32

And Cohen went to jail for his crime. But the $420K payment Trump made gave Trump a huge pnwmom Apr 2023 #34

I think you quoted that wrong Sgent Apr 2023 #24

I copied and pasted from the Statement. pnwmom Apr 2023 #28

The 'Statement Of Facts' Is Not Evidence, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2023 #22

There is a footnote you might like... Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2023 #38

Yes, that is a cut and paste boilerplate I have seen a 1000 times if I have seen it once. former9thward Apr 2023 #39

When does discovery begin? Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2023 #46

Discovery began Tuesday for the defense as far as starting to see evidence. former9thward Apr 2023 #47

This is what I've heard repeatedly from the lawyers on Meidas Touch. It's not Gaugamela Apr 2023 #17

I posted my views in this thread. former9thward Apr 2023 #21

Even in Arizona, how is taking a large tax deduction under false pretenses -- pnwmom Apr 2023 #25

If Trump did that why wasn't it charged? former9thward Apr 2023 #27

All the indictment counts are written broadly, merely referring to another crime. pnwmom Apr 2023 #30

You don't inthewind21 Apr 2023 #43

I'm not sure you ARE missing anything since I've seen pundits claim that the talk of tax evasion RockRaven Apr 2023 #16

"the talk of tax evasion" former9thward Apr 2023 #23

It's discussed in the Statement. pnwmom Apr 2023 #26

Have to find intent for tax fraud Sgent Apr 2023 #29

Andrew Weissmann on TV said that the linkage to tax crime was stronger jgo Apr 2023 #31

Thank you, jgo! So there are legal opinions on both sides of this. pnwmom Apr 2023 #33

Linking it to the election needs Cohen's testimony ripcord Apr 2023 #35

Which is why other witnesses were brought in to corroborate the election motive wishstar Apr 2023 #36

But he also supplied the prosecutors with written documents and audio recordings pnwmom Apr 2023 #53

Bragg emphasized NY State campaign law also, not just Federal wishstar Apr 2023 #37

That inthewind21 Apr 2023 #40