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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
7. Yes, this is part of it
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:58 PM
Jan 2012

a military base that is ONLY a hospital and barracks is not a military base, it is infrastructure. A military base includes an armory. an MP Station, a Fire Station, and a firing range at the very least. This is literally the size of large city block. Hell you could do that to fix a high school too, but it needs to be federalized due to the we cannot have Federal Troops working in CONUS. For that I prefer WPA. But you could also use them to build a SCHOOL that way... a block or two are hardly a base, even if we call it that way.

You need to change the law to allow federal troops to work in CONUS. For rebuilding bridges, and yes we need it. you need a CIVILIAN WPA program. This is just a way to keep these troops EMPLOYED right until the draw down of forces will not put them into the unemployment office for the next five years. The last to face the axe right now should be actual troops... they spend money.

Incidentally, what happens if you bring a combat brigade to the US, and you change their MOS, military occupational specialty, from rifleman, to Engineer and give them the CONSTRUCTION skills they can use in the civilian world once they are released from service. I am sure some gung ho troops will prefer to stay in the service in the combat arms for 20 years, but most will not be able to. Not with the drawdowns we expect, So retraining them before they leave the service is a damn good idea.

Paul's idea of a base of McNeil AF base, this is not McNeil, at all. And it will be in the plans that six months to a year after it comes on line (time to check it), it is transferred to the county as a county teaching hospital. Walla infrastructure. I can tell you MY CITY could use a new county hospital. Ours is just oh forty plus years old and cannot be seismically retrofitted to meet standards.

Of course we are talking out of whatever because we will not see a WPA or anything like this in our lifetime. And we will see a draw dawn of forces (who stop spending) well before the MIC cancels things like the Osprey, otherwise known as the widow maker. We stopped being that creative a while ago. And keeping a combat brigade that becomes an engineering unit in the rolls for two more years building infrastructure and getting skills that are actually useful in the civilian world is far cheaper than still funding the Osprey... that is why it will not happen.

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More FEMA camps? Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #1
Never heard one clear thought from Paul. bluestate10 Jan 2012 #2
Ironically in this economy he has sort of a point nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #3
Isn't ProSense Jan 2012 #4
I will explain you the logic nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #5
Not ProSense Jan 2012 #6
Yes, this is part of it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #7
Why ProSense Jan 2012 #8
What is "the President's plan to shrink the size of the military"? girl gone mad Jan 2012 #9
And I am thinking of something that is highly Keynseian nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #11
Um, ProSense Jan 2012 #15
I replied to one of your posts and stated as much. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #22
Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #24
I don't have much of an opinion on the matter, to be frank. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #35
Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #42
No you didn't say Obama was attacking the MIC.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #46
Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #48
"I do think these two politicians sound like they are not so far apart." Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #54
The undeniable fact of the matter is that if Obama was for increasing the size of the military... Bonobo Jan 2012 #41
You're right.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #43
Clearly ProSense Jan 2012 #44
Nope, I wouldn't spend another red cent on the fiction of using the US military to "defend freedom". Bonobo Jan 2012 #49
"The US military could cut their budget 100% and STILL be bigger" Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #52
Something that is built by an engineering batallion nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #10
Where ProSense Jan 2012 #16
So let me get this nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #23
No ProSense Jan 2012 #27
Oh for fucks sake the military is the most socialized nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #28
What? ProSense Jan 2012 #31
Quick, how many are meant for a drawdown right now? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #33
There ProSense Jan 2012 #37
Prosense we are in the middle of an overall revision in the doctrine and force structure nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #45
Right ProSense Jan 2012 #56
They are not mutually exclusive nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #58
"Oh for fucks sake the military is the most socialized institution in the US." QFT /nt Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #40
I work in this industry, and that would require a significant shift in policy. joshcryer Jan 2012 #17
I just floated a high policy proposal nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #21
This is not what Ron Paul is suggesting at all. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #25
I know, why I said not for the reasons Paul is suggesting nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #26
"why I said not for the reasons Paul is suggesting" Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #29
Oh I am not talking of new troops nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #32
The entire point of a WPA is to hire civilians. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #36
WPA would and should be separate from this nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #39
Here's another idea. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #50
Give them first preference for federal employment... nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #53
Hmm Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #59
Let's clarify I did not mean a WPA via the military nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #62
Here's how a drawdown works. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #38
And you look at Reps in those districts, they bloc vote for MIC. joshcryer Jan 2012 #12
I know, but reality is that what Paul is talking is McNeil AF base in every district nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #14
That would be direct competition to contractors, which Ron Paul would be against. joshcryer Jan 2012 #18
There you go nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #20
We're not in danger of invasion treestar Jan 2012 #13
Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #19
Alamo. Dutch Harbor. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #30
No more so than Texas Major Nikon Jan 2012 #47
Alaska was already a territory (since 1912). Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #51
Learn something new every day treestar Jan 2012 #67
Yeah, I think they had troops on some other Aleutian islands for several months. /nt Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #69
Talk about "small govt". FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #34
In the right context, I'd have to agree. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #55
Yeah, ProSense Jan 2012 #57
Using the military for civilian uses didn't make a whole lot of sense back then and makes less now Major Nikon Jan 2012 #61
Ron Paul wants a stronger national military to keep the zombie hoards at bay. Rex Jan 2012 #60
It's ProSense Jan 2012 #63
I wonder if he'd revive the coastal batteries? BiggJawn Jan 2012 #64
Since we had a lot of posts reinterpreting Ron Paul's position as a potentially good thing... joshcryer Jan 2012 #65
Well, ProSense Jan 2012 #66
To what purpose? jwirr Jan 2012 #68
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