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LostOne4Ever

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96. The bar doesn't need to be met to hurt Trans athletes

Mon Apr 10, 2023, 11:42 PM

Apr 2023

Just like the RW judge did on the ruling on mifepristone, they will either use junk science or outright make shit up (ignoring all evidence to the contrary) and use that as justification to ban trans athletes.

No matter how air tight you think the loophole might be right wingers will find someway to pry it open.

The only way to deal with this is to leave no loopholes at all. Just as we would not stand for banning black athletes we must not stand for any trans athlete ban. Nor can we even put that on the bargaining table!!!

Simply put, No banning athletes from participation, at all, or for any reason!!! If there is some issue of unfair advantages (which I don’t believe to be proven at the professional athlete level) then we can talk accommodations, handicaps, and modification.

BUT NO BANS OR LIMITS ON PARTICIPATION!!!

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Biden administration says schools may bar trans athletes from competitive teams [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 OP

EVERYTHING is about WINNING! dchill Apr 2023 #1

Kick. Important stuff here, people! WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #2

This is disgusting angrychair Apr 2023 #3

It's being seen as a betrayal and adoption of RW lies Nevilledog Apr 2023 #4

That's exactly what it is. Horrifying. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #5

This is some bullshit. Initech Apr 2023 #6

So are these proposed regulations, or a done deal? gratuitous Apr 2023 #7

It's a proposal, and you can read it on the DOE's website. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #9

There is a 30-day comment period. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #58

What do I need to search under? LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #90

I haven't found it yet - Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #91

Thank you very much LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #92

... Solly Mack Apr 2023 #8

Right? "Others." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #10

That, and I'm simply bursting with curiosity about what an "important educational objective" Solly Mack Apr 2023 #11

If I had to guess, I'd say that's French for scholarships Sympthsical Apr 2023 #13

And "competitive" as well. It's a mess all around. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #15

As a parent of a trans child this is my red line AntivaxHunters Apr 2023 #12

I'm so sorry. Time after time after time. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #14

Goes to show vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #18

As a "group of over 30 doctor's [sic]", did you read the proposed regulation? lapucelle Apr 2023 #28

Thank you Johnny2X2X Apr 2023 #34

It's not perfect, but it does prohibit schools from the blanket use of "gender assigned at birth" lapucelle Apr 2023 #36

I vehemently disagree with the Democratic Party platform on many issues. hunter Apr 2023 #46

Thank you for standing up for your child! LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #86

Evening kick. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #16

Wow vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #17

I'm so sorry. It's horrifying. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #19

I keep saying it over and over vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #20

Yep. Politically, trans people are sacrifices to the center. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #21

I'll still vote for him vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #23

I hear you. We have to be able to freely give feedback to those who say they support us. If they WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #24

There is a public comment period for the proposed regulation lapucelle Apr 2023 #40

Meantime, a transgender named Dylan Mulvaney is making millions from Bud Lite and Nike. BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #32

Okay here's the thing with that vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #39

What rights and laws do not protect you? BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #45

SRSLY? Nearly every state is going after LGBTQ+ folks. progressoid Apr 2023 #50

Well I was asking what laws are needed? BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #51

They don't get it vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #57

It's frustrating & infuriating for me, a cis male. I can't imagine what trans people and progressoid Apr 2023 #61

So you won't answer my question. BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #89

Here's a start: Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #93

Yeah, You Do RobinA Apr 2023 #47

... BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #52

Women who are transgender are female athletes. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #59

Cis Female athletes are not being threatened by trans women LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #62

Also trans women are female athletes too. (Nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #63

The additional regulation would do the following: lapucelle Apr 2023 #27

This is definitely the wrong decision. Marius25 Apr 2023 #22

The proposed regulation would be added as a second part of a current regulation lapucelle Apr 2023 #25

Thank you, lapucelle. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #29

WaPo should be ashamed of that misleading, clickbait headline. lapucelle Apr 2023 #35

I thought they were better than that. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #41

Post removed Post removed Apr 2023 #48

That explains a lot. lapucelle Apr 2023 #49

Thanks Johonny Apr 2023 #33

Thanks ! obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2023 #37

*headdesk* sakabatou Apr 2023 #26

Common Joe this isn't you LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #30

See post #38. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #42

Does not change anything LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #64

It certainly does...and if they forbid Trans girls from participating in sports, they lose their Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #80

That is not what the article says LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #83

The headline is deceiving...WAPO can not be trusted I suggest your read the entire post. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #78

I did LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #84

Way to score on yourself. aocommunalpunch Apr 2023 #31

Did you read the regulation? lapucelle Apr 2023 #38

Schools -- more specifically, school boards -- will have no trouble at all carrying that burden if WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2023 #43

What makes you think schools / school boards "will have no trouble at all carrying that burden"? lapucelle Apr 2023 #44

Nonsense...blanket Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #79

No banning based on being trans should be allowed. LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #87

Making concessions to right wing homophobes is not going to help us win jcgoldie Apr 2023 #53

Nuanced policy directive reduced to binary oppositions. So typical. maxsolomon Apr 2023 #54

That WaPo headline is nothing but misleading mischief. lapucelle Apr 2023 #55

There is no nuance in bigotry LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #88

the Biden Admin set a bar that basically can't be met. maxsolomon Apr 2023 #95

The bar doesn't need to be met to hurt Trans athletes LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #96

Meh..he's doing supply and demand response. Volaris Apr 2023 #56

That didn't make it acceptable when Obama proposed relegating my, then, 27 year marriage Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #60

This is a good proposal by Biden. People who are against it didn't actually read the proposal. Beautiful Disaster Apr 2023 #65

How? LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #66

This makes no sense. Beautiful Disaster Apr 2023 #68

It makes perfect sense! LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #70

Accusing people of claiming to be trans to gain athletic advantage Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #75

Wow. Merely because someone disagrees without, you accuse them of Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #67

Exactly. Beautiful Disaster Apr 2023 #69

So you are accusing me of being a liar. Got it. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #72

There is a great deal of that on this thread...I can't understand why after being told to read Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #81

Please don't accuse people who disagree with the proposal Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #82

No, it wouldn't, and I suppose taking that into account means Biden missed on this one. Volaris Apr 2023 #74

Before puberty, kids are pretty much equal as far as Deminpenn Apr 2023 #71

Arguing there is a scientific basis for discrimination Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #77

Puberty blockers are safe, effective, and a real thing LostOne4Ever Apr 2023 #85

I'd be interested in the opinion of people who categorize themselves as trans on this gulliver Apr 2023 #73

You have at least two trans individuals who have spoken in this thread, Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #76

Biden DOE Trans Sports Rule has been widely (purposefully) misconstrued LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #94