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Hutzpa

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131. Maybe it's time the left starts fighting fire with fire

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 10:39 AM

Nov 2012

can you imagine the outrage if the black panther was out there making all kinds of threats to these very same pundits instigating these threats to the president? Yet the media treats this as though these guys are just crazy and we should all ignore them and once we ignore them everything will be fine. Such BS like that is what makes this much more harder for the Secret Service to operate.

There should be a law created by the Secret Service that says any threat made to the President, be it a Republican or a Democrat, any threat should be treated as a terrorist act period.

Enough, the Secret Service needs to draw the line somewhere, they need to use the terrorist act policy to either start shooting people or arresting people either one, they have to find a way to take out their anger some how.

Time to Act.

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A good friend of mine is an ex-Secret Service agent. [View all] 11 Bravo Nov 2012 OP

The threat is real and it needs to be watched very closely. 2on2u Nov 2012 #1

I have been worried about femrap Nov 2012 #31

I have a special place in my heart for cops. BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #99

I have femrap Nov 2012 #153

Yeah, me too, checkin' in from the 60's. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #176

Yep, femrap Nov 2012 #191

You must be kin to my wife. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #193

We haven't invaded Iran yet!!! femrap Nov 2012 #194

She's busy right now. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #196

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #119

+1000 orpupilofnature57 Nov 2012 #128

Maybe it's time the left starts fighting fire with fire Hutzpa Nov 2012 #131

My father was part of this in the 80's and took it very serious at the time juxtaposed Nov 2012 #2

The resurgence of the KKK is frightening - saw this on Nightline last week and got chills - they are Pachamama Nov 2012 #178

Ok, anything can happen in the US,we know that. And it would be bad MichiganVote Nov 2012 #3

BS obxhead Nov 2012 #68

My dear, many,many of the children and youth of the JFK generation MichiganVote Nov 2012 #70

I don't disagree with that. obxhead Nov 2012 #71

yes i was there... and i am here oldhippydude Nov 2012 #83

Did it? ;_; Leopolds Ghost Nov 2012 #88

Yes. RFK was the last best hope. hifiguy Nov 2012 #93

Certainly they seem to give some sort of "come into the fold" talk Leopolds Ghost Nov 2012 #95

Cooperate or we will kill you hifiguy Nov 2012 #96

Here's a choice video related to what you just said -- Leopolds Ghost Nov 2012 #133

For those who'd like a transcript: Stardust Nov 2012 #170

"Funny how only left politicians were the victims of the 1960s." KansDem Nov 2012 #118

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #120

Outstanding post. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #143

Rec this post. HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #152

Rec your post LiberalLovinLug Nov 2012 #155

"...just wait until Jeb is crowned as the next nominee." KansDem Nov 2012 #156

Brilliant post, KansDem. +1 n/t SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2012 #162

right wingers were targets too Squeaky Weal Nov 2012 #140

Malcolm X scared the hell out of racist whites. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #172

From my persepctive, yes. When I was young, it was a horrific deal MichiganVote Nov 2012 #158

No, it left us devastated and fractured. mountain grammy Nov 2012 #129

I think you underestimate the power of war. MichiganVote Nov 2012 #159

Thank you, MichiganVote, from another one of that generation. n/t whathehell Nov 2012 #135

Two steps back and three steps forward tavalon Nov 2012 #107

It's polyanna to think that assassinations aren't effective. Marr Nov 2012 #126

A while back, I posted this article on how overloaded the cleduc Nov 2012 #4

I've been to several Presidential rallies. LeftofObama Nov 2012 #10

There was one recent rally where Barack was coming cleduc Nov 2012 #15

There was a big bald SS guy after Obama's victory speech.. pangaia Nov 2012 #35

The hands are the key Floyd_Gondolli Nov 2012 #73

Yeah, the bald one his POTUS's shadow ... Myrina Nov 2012 #37

The bald guy is his body man. underthematrix Nov 2012 #45

We on DU call him "Bob". gateley Nov 2012 #81

That is, in the words of Mick Foley, hifiguy Nov 2012 #92

I delivered a pizza to Clinton's detail Nevernose Nov 2012 #17

some heaven05 Nov 2012 #55

Nice links. Bookmarking. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #134

These thoughts crossed my mind during Obama's victory speech aletier_v Nov 2012 #5

Yeah MynameisBlarney Nov 2012 #48

Yes..why wouldn't PBO have the highest threat level in history as we know it? limpbaugh, Cha Nov 2012 #6

My observation is that the only other POTUS The Green Manalishi Nov 2012 #69

They are true believers tavalon Nov 2012 #109

"True Believers" was the title of a 1960s or early 1970s tblue37 Nov 2012 #160

yeah, that was the angle I was trying to avoid so I went with a more current movie tavalon Nov 2012 #190

Lincoln also -- Booth and his many southern sympathizers. anneboleyn Nov 2012 #175

You confirm my fears siligut Nov 2012 #7

NO!!!!! Absolutely Not!!!! In this country, we do NOT punish the families of offenders!!!!! LongTomH Nov 2012 #11

You are right, they would just send an unmarried orphan anyway. nt siligut Nov 2012 #16

If you're pushing laws like that you're on the wrong site. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #13

This violates legal precedent nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #14

The threats against our POTUS are unprecedented siligut Nov 2012 #19

Hmm no they are not nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #24

And there is a big deterrent in place. Biden. :) aletier_v Nov 2012 #27

My biggest fear after the term 1election was that he wouldn't finish it. Then I saw how much tRepubs PATXgirl Nov 2012 #122

"There is a precedent to this" jaysunb Nov 2012 #171

Yes, that is a lesson of the 1960s nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #173

all heaven05 Nov 2012 #181

You are right, why Kennedy lies at Arlington National Cemetery. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #184

you heaven05 Nov 2012 #185

Read my original response to this thread nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #186

yeah heaven05 Nov 2012 #188

How about we round up all Republicans and place them in concentration camps... ScreamingMeemie Nov 2012 #58

Apart from being utterly barbaraic, such an approach would be completely ineffective. gkhouston Nov 2012 #18

For a second I thought I was reading... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #26

It's not the people who make threats I worry about ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #38

I agree with longtom pangaia Nov 2012 #40

I'm in Nova Scotia and can get it just fine Posteritatis Nov 2012 #46

Interesting, pangaia Nov 2012 #54

We get Fox laundry_queen Nov 2012 #149

Are you for real??? Beacool Nov 2012 #49

no heaven05 Nov 2012 #50

Wanna bet Trump got a cautionary call or visit tblue37 Nov 2012 #161

yep heaven05 Nov 2012 #180

Good God, no! That's banana republic stuff. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #56

What the hell? I'm ashamed this is on DU. RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #60

Oh for fuck sake what is wrong with you? Sheldon Cooper Nov 2012 #66

Funny you bring that up because in Barack Obama's case, the "sins" of the father ARE visited justiceischeap Nov 2012 #115

I'm going to be charitable and assume this post is a joke. dairydog91 Nov 2012 #87

That would make us no better than the people we oppose....perhaps much worse. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #103

Yes, let's employ Soviet tactics circa 1935 bayareamike Nov 2012 #116

+1000 orpupilofnature57 Nov 2012 #130

That's pretty much insane, what you're suggesting. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #139

As much as I would like to see Limbaugh prosecuted BarackTheVote Nov 2012 #148

What the fuck is wrong with you? Marrah_G Nov 2012 #154

I'm sorry, but I find this post to be evidence of some kind of mental issue. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #183

I have worried since 2008 Maeve Nov 2012 #8

That's chilling. Matariki Nov 2012 #9

I have no friends nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #12

This is the #1 thing I worry about right now distantearlywarning Nov 2012 #20

I'm hoping we don't have a replay of the sixties and watch out leaders be assassinated. nt valerief Nov 2012 #21

For years, death threats against Obama are at four times the rate of any previous President. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #22

The media fear mongering *must* be creating a strain on the Secret Service, no doubt! janx Nov 2012 #23

I am very grateful that the secret service is doing such a great job. Whisp Nov 2012 #25

I can't imagine what Michelle goes thru knowing this and having to put EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #28

No kidding. I felt a little panicky just watching Presidents Obama and Clinton walking out into the Iris Nov 2012 #44

She deserves a medal grantcart Nov 2012 #111

Very seriously. I'm actually zentrum Nov 2012 #29

The GOP scoffed when Janet Napolitano said right wing fringe groups were a danger...... Swede Atlanta Nov 2012 #30

I am your age and agree with you. n/t janx Nov 2012 #43

Interesting you mention road rage- cprise Nov 2012 #102

Clear channel buying up the small market radio stations bigbrother05 Nov 2012 #137

I had not thought of the connection between hate radio, being stuck in your car & road rage. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #146

I posted my feelings below - almost exactly the same as yours. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #145

11 Bravo Diclotican Nov 2012 #32

I once AsahinaKimi Nov 2012 #33

"Marine" is one of those things you are forever. hifiguy Nov 2012 #41

"ex" implies you were somehow disassociated with your profession under negative circumstances while Native Nov 2012 #82

Indeed. hifiguy Nov 2012 #84

No such thing as ex-Beatle, either. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #89

And Crips. Leopolds Ghost Nov 2012 #189

I've been thinking about this. yardwork Nov 2012 #34

It's very real. It IS like the movies portray it. You have to be willing to give up your life RB TexLa Nov 2012 #36

When you see idiots like the girl who got fired at Coldstone.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #39

Look at the hate posted in response to any Yahoo.com story remotely related to PBO spooky3 Nov 2012 #42

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #121

America heaven05 Nov 2012 #47

but millions of Americans think that every fucking word they utter is gospel. Herlong Nov 2012 #51

Hate radio bearing fruit ItsTheMediaStupid Nov 2012 #52

Son of a Teabagger! ErikJ Nov 2012 #53

Every threat must be addressed The Wizard Nov 2012 #57

Thanks for sharing. Definitely a lot of misery/bad vibes in teabilly heaven, NY where 90% occupy adirondacker Nov 2012 #59

On high alert Jaimeb Nov 2012 #61

Above all else... I hope the President takes these threats to his safety seriously. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2012 #62

Fox and the GOP continue to try and dislodge the next Timothy McVeigh from the crazy tree. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #63

U r correct! Jaimeb Nov 2012 #65

Excellent analysis. n/t adirondacker Nov 2012 #72

McVeigh was a function of Waco and FBI bumbling aletier_v Nov 2012 #76

Nonsense. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #179

The concept is called "stochastic terrorism". Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2012 #91

I will pop a bottle of champagne when Rush Limbaugh dies. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #147

I sooooo wish I could rec your post. That first sentence sums it up with Stardust Nov 2012 #192

y'all if you truly love the president underthematrix Nov 2012 #64

This is my big fear. drm604 Nov 2012 #67

There was a private limo parked in front of our grocery store this afternoon. Eddie Haskell Nov 2012 #74

Now that Obama doesn't have to campaign his public exposure can be limited. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #75

Light is fatal to darkness... inamatteroftime Nov 2012 #77

Unprecedented 400% increase in threats on the life of the Pres ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #78

I wondered about this very possibility. Doremus Nov 2012 #79

As much as the threat level against our president is alarming, SCALA13 Nov 2012 #80

I was stationed in the south in the mid 1960's... usafvet65 Nov 2012 #85

+1 n/t Tsiyu Nov 2012 #97

I was stationed at Keesler AFB in the same time frame. ... spin Nov 2012 #104

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #123

Sadly, I am not even remotely surprised. aquamarina Nov 2012 #86

I hope Obama lays low until the shock of the election wears off. Kablooie Nov 2012 #90

The threat is stochastic terrorism from the minions of the far right... Hekate Nov 2012 #94

The "left" was mad as Hell at *ush FOR GOOD REASON Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #98

talk about a stressful job. Kurovski Nov 2012 #100

My husband is beside himself with worry about the President's safety. Lugnut Nov 2012 #101

All it takes is some nutbag like Loughner. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #105

Damn it all. tavalon Nov 2012 #106

Friend and I talk about this frequently since Tuesday lebkuchen Nov 2012 #108

So, how do we get them to rachet it down? tavalon Nov 2012 #110

^This. Pull the plug, jackhammer the foundation, start some lawsuits nc4bo Nov 2012 #112

How do we pull the plug on Fox News? tavalon Nov 2012 #113

There will have to be mass RW rejection barring some catastrophic calamity nc4bo Nov 2012 #114

start with a minor regulation - require on-air corrections as part of broadcasting license ReasonableToo Nov 2012 #144

Massive boycott of their sponsors, which worked with Beck. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #174

We Survived 8 Years of Bush. You Can Survive 8 Years of Obama. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #150

So why aren't they going after the hate-filled vitriol of tv and radio? ccinamon Nov 2012 #117

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #124

The Secret Service need to start making a regular visit Hutzpa Nov 2012 #125

Misanthrope Sycophant Monsters.... Are worse than terrorists using orpupilofnature57 Nov 2012 #127

All threats must be looked at Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #132

I say arrest 'em all and ship them to re-education camps in black helicopters... jimlup Nov 2012 #136

RW radio monopoly can't survive if students stop their university sports from supporting it certainot Nov 2012 #138

I, too, worry for this president & his beautiful family. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #141

One incident that stood out for me polly7 Nov 2012 #142

The FCC Turbineguy Nov 2012 #151

I worry about this all the time AndrewP Nov 2012 #157

There is a level of pushing implied encouragements of assassination Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #163

I saw an article with links to quite a few Tweeted threats to assassinate Romney if Flatulo Nov 2012 #164

I have a bunch of clients in the news media and they are really frightened for the President and... Walk away Nov 2012 #165

I have feared for Obama's life drmeow Nov 2012 #166

We might be seeing fewer public appearances by Pres. Obama until things cool down JPZenger Nov 2012 #167

I'm just happy he doesn't have to run for office anymore and expose himself Cleita Nov 2012 #168

I believe Doris Kearns Goodwin respects Obama very much, but . . . SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2012 #169

My 76 year old mother is worried about this get the red out Nov 2012 #177

I remember the Kennedy's and Dr King upi402 Nov 2012 #182

I agree get the red out Nov 2012 #195

there's JFK, RFK, MLK and there's rabin newspeak Nov 2012 #187