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Hortensis

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51. +1000. "groups who fail at the ballot box trying another way to seize power."

Sat Apr 15, 2023, 12:53 PM

Apr 2023

Political scientists categorize these LW groups as anti-democracy for that and other reasons.

Most are also illiberal in both ideology and temperament. I'm lifelong, hardwired liberal. I can practically smell those who pose as liberal/progressive while despising me and the liberal Democratic Party for it.

Sure they have a right to life, liberty to self radicalize and deceive as much as they want, and pursuit of spoiling and/or stealing Democratic elections. And free societies have to include all kinds. I'm liberal after all, and what on earth would be the alternative?

But belief in liberal representative democracy is about as close as I get to a religion. And I question the judgement and character of anyone who hangs with those who threaten it.

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Dianne Feinstein digs in [View all] RandySF Apr 2023 OP

has anybody actually seen her in the last week? nt msongs Apr 2023 #1

Has anyone seen any member of the Senate? They're on recess. onenote Apr 2023 #16

... Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #2

So essentially vercetti2021 Apr 2023 #3

There are a lot of Biden nominees that have made it out of Committee waiting Senate action onenote Apr 2023 #18

As said. Hortensis Apr 2023 #33

She apparently Rebl2 Apr 2023 #4

Information is a pretty reliable anxiolytic. Plus, let's face it -- Hortensis Apr 2023 #34

The judge issue is a red herring Zeitghost Apr 2023 #5

we have 630 days of Senate control remaining dsc Apr 2023 #7

1%, really, that's your threshold of inconvienience? Zeitghost Apr 2023 #8

It would be one thing if we had a timeline dsc Apr 2023 #9

That's not how this works Zeitghost Apr 2023 #12

yeah it is like that dsc Apr 2023 #14

Excellent post. The judges are a total red herring. The same group didn't prioritize the Nixie Apr 2023 #10

Bernie Sanders wasn't on the judiciary committee. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #29

See post #38. onenote Apr 2023 #42

This too. Frankly, I'd be worried if I heard Ro Khanna Hortensis Apr 2023 #43

You nailed it again, as always. This is the crux of it all -- these groups who Nixie Apr 2023 #46

+1000. "groups who fail at the ballot box trying another way to seize power." Hortensis Apr 2023 #51

What makes you think it will be a few weeks. This is just plain foolish. I find it sad that the Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #11

Judge Costa (5th circuit) announced his retirement over a year ago FBaggins Apr 2023 #47

Ro Khanna is trying to grab a senate seat without voters. I'm glad Feinstein sees through that Nixie Apr 2023 #6

I don't give a damn about the politics of this. It is a safe seat. I care only that we don't give Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #13

Yet I can remember the Pennsylvania primary and all the attacks on Connor Lamb. Nixie Apr 2023 #15

that isn't how that would work dsc Apr 2023 #17

I know it wouldn't work that way. It also doesn't work that Ro Khanna start a Nixie Apr 2023 #20

He should break the promise to name a Black woman dsc Apr 2023 #23

Agreed about the Boxer appointment and his promise. Nixie Apr 2023 #26

Well, Katie Porter's chance of being elected is very poor, Hortensis Apr 2023 #58

Well, Katie Porter's chance of being elected over formidable Hortensis Apr 2023 #59

OK it's 2 months for fucks sake ... 2 FUCKING M O N T H S nt GuppyGal Apr 2023 #19

Yes. I think Fetterman went out right after he was sworn in and just got back. Nixie Apr 2023 #21

He wasn't on the Judiciary committee and we still had an overall majority even in his absence dsc Apr 2023 #24

Yes, the Supreme Court was important, too, but look Nixie Apr 2023 #25

Sadly had Justice Ginsburg retired in Obama's first term, we might have avoided Dobs. I think Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #68

But that's because the Supreme Court was on the line yet Nixie Apr 2023 #78

Can you describe this "blockade" that Feinstein's absence allegedly has caused? onenote Apr 2023 #38

Those Judges were approved with Republican consent Marius25 Apr 2023 #65

You must be kidding. There won't be any more judges since they can stop it...and do we want Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #69

How do they stop the 18 judges that have been approved by Committee? onenote Apr 2023 #80

Really? There are 49 Republicans. There are, without Feinstein, 50 Democrats. onenote Apr 2023 #72

We're talking about the Judiciary committee Marius25 Apr 2023 #74

For the umpteenth time, there are 18 nominees already approved by Judiciary onenote Apr 2023 #79

Not two months. onenote Apr 2023 #39

Is this really HER hanging on? Or is it STAFF? Frasier Balzov Apr 2023 #22

Good point. The hardest, saddest thing I ever did was Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #32

Good for her not letting people bully her ripcord Apr 2023 #27

Because we totally need people who are nearly 100 in our senate Calculating Apr 2023 #28

I've seen posts on this site newdayneeded Apr 2023 #35

Maybe someone in their 90s enjoys their time by working. onenote Apr 2023 #37

Wow. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #30

Shingles does not prevent travel. Full stop. Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #31

Are you her doctor? Are you anyone's doctor? onenote Apr 2023 #36

I'm not her doctor but I know bs when I hear it. Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #40

So do I. onenote Apr 2023 #41

She got shingles in February. Having had shingles I know that with treatment Autumn Apr 2023 #56

Shingles is not contagious. RandySF Apr 2023 #60

I didn't think it was either until I read up on traveling if Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #62

I don't buy the sexism angle madville Apr 2023 #44

The Byrd example doesn't actually make the point that you think it does FBaggins Apr 2023 #48

Either way madville Apr 2023 #52

You're missing the other side of the coin FBaggins Apr 2023 #54

I find it sad that we didn't learn our lesson from the Supreme Court Marius25 Apr 2023 #45

There is no "lesson" that applies here FBaggins Apr 2023 #49

It does waste valuable time to fill Judicial seats Marius25 Apr 2023 #50

Not really FBaggins Apr 2023 #53

I am appalled by her selfishness pinkstarburst Apr 2023 #55

Oh... someone is being selfish alright. But it isn't her FBaggins Apr 2023 #61

My brother had shingles. He missed a week from work. There is something else going on here Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #70

Is you brother identical to every other human in any other ways? FBaggins Apr 2023 #77

There are 18 judges awaiting full senate confirmation. How is her absence preventing them from being onenote Apr 2023 #82

True Democrats would support her against these sexist attacks. Lancero Apr 2023 #57

Nothing sexist about it. Marius25 Apr 2023 #64

The RW makes these exact same bogus attacks against Biden, every day. Lancero Apr 2023 #67

I disagree. These attacks are because Feinstein is 89 years old Marius25 Apr 2023 #73

Internalized sexism is a thing, yes. And of course, ageism is another reason for the attacks. Lancero Apr 2023 #75

Feinstein is 89 and prior to her illness, she missed fewer floor votes than several Democrats onenote Apr 2023 #81

True Democrat don't want the Republicans to get more judges and for what...she leaves Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #66

Nancy Pelosi was quite accurate as to why people are piling on Dianne right now. Lancero Apr 2023 #71

Absolute madness NotVeryImportant Apr 2023 #63

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ripcord Apr 2023 #76