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Straw Man

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29. Acc'ding to Tennessee law ...

Sat Apr 15, 2023, 05:42 PM

Apr 2023

... pepper spraying some is "assault with bodily injury." I'm sure his lawyer will try to argue self-defense. It will probably be up to a jury to decide. I'm not a lawyer, but I think that unless they continued to assault him after spraying him, his case for self-defense is weak.

As others have said, it's likely that he violated a company rule against carrying a firearm while at work. I'm not sure whether his action of following them out of the store and videotaping them would conflict with company policy about shoplifters, though.

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Pregnant woman shot by Walgreens employee in East Nashville [View all] Nevilledog Apr 2023 OP

From shoplifting to armed robbery lame54 Apr 2023 #1

Cops often cant justify deadly force Mad_Machine76 Apr 2023 #2

it's wasn't just the theft treestar Apr 2023 #65

everyone can make the determination treestar Apr 2023 #67

The employee will get off Ritabert Apr 2023 #3

But he will get fired. haele Apr 2023 #6

He didn't know if they were armed so he made a preemptive attack. Chainfire Apr 2023 #4

Don't bring pepper spray to a gun fight. Sneederbunk Apr 2023 #5

I wonder what kind of clown believes that shoplifting is a shooting offense. Chainfire Apr 2023 #7

Why Not Let Them Take The Goods Ahna KneeMoose Apr 2023 #8

Plus I would think (I would hope) that Walgreen's would have a policy rurallib Apr 2023 #9

The only person I feel bad for here is the baby. Ace Rothstein Apr 2023 #10

You think shoplifting deserves the death penalty? Nevilledog Apr 2023 #11

I think macing someone can cause problems for you. Ace Rothstein Apr 2023 #12

You think the appropriate use of force against pepper spray is being shot? Nevilledog Apr 2023 #13

If they are willing to mace you then what else are they willing to do? Ace Rothstein Apr 2023 #14

That type of reasoning is why some people should never be allowed to possess guns. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #17

There's a huge jump from your scenarios to one in which a violent act already happened. Ace Rothstein Apr 2023 #25

You're entitled to your opinion. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #28

Typically the answer to that sarisataka Apr 2023 #20

I'll stand on my 33 years as a criminal defense attorney. It's not justified self-defense. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #21

I received my information sarisataka Apr 2023 #23

Situational awareness is your best defense. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #27

6. Was the baby armed and making threatening motions? Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2023 #49

Also: Your amateur hour second-hand information ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #56

Since the attorney was speaking sarisataka Apr 2023 #64

Mitarius Boyd shot Travonsha Ferguson. Sneederbunk Apr 2023 #30

I'm going out on a limb and guessing both victim and shooter are black. BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #54

"Once you are hit with pepper spray, you are essentially helpless and at the mercy of the other pers orleans Apr 2023 #39

Possibilities- sarisataka Apr 2023 #40

We get it. You're okay with vigilante justice ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #58

I am ok with self-defense sarisataka Apr 2023 #62

Thank you. nt BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #53

The pepper-spraying woman can ALSO claim self-defense ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #55

I find it interesting how easy sarisataka Apr 2023 #63

I've read here on DU that pepper spray can cause death Zeitghost Apr 2023 #31

Since pepper spray contains cayenne ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #59

agreed treestar Apr 2023 #66

Unfortunately it is all too common here these days. Ace Rothstein Apr 2023 #70

+1.. smh Cha Apr 2023 #16

Have people lost their common sense? lees1975 Apr 2023 #15

It seems like that was exactly what was going on Zeitghost Apr 2023 #32

he followed them around to the back of the car orleans Apr 2023 #38

I'd imagine Zeitghost Apr 2023 #47

So alleged shoplifting is now a death sentence? mcar Apr 2023 #18

Retail LP people follow shoplifters into the parking lot 100s times a day Mosby Apr 2023 #22

Are you serious? mcar Apr 2023 #34

She wasn't shot because she was shoplifting. TwilightZone Apr 2023 #26

7 months is pretty damn premature. Hopefully late in the 7th month lostnfound Apr 2023 #19

And dumb ass mother to be Evergreen Emerald Apr 2023 #24

Are we sure she did? mcar Apr 2023 #35

Has prior criminal record of violence and vandalism. Sneederbunk Apr 2023 #36

And? mcar Apr 2023 #37

Excellent point! DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #42

I guess the same way Evergreen Emerald Apr 2023 #50

Acc'ding to Tennessee law ... Straw Man Apr 2023 #29

A jury isn't going to decide. NutmegYankee Apr 2023 #33

Some here apparently agree with that. mcar Apr 2023 #43

It is how the world works. NutmegYankee Apr 2023 #48

Well, thank God that Tennessee supports gun rights DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #41

Seems the identities are protected MagickMuffin Apr 2023 #44

No. The shooter is Mitarius Boyd and the shootee is Travonsha Ferguson. Sneederbunk Apr 2023 #46

Hmmmmm treestar Apr 2023 #68

This, this, and more this.......or am I wrong??? Shoplifting a kennedy Apr 2023 #45

The Daily Wire is Ben Shapiro's propaganda outlet. TwilightZone Apr 2023 #51

Shoot, ok will remember that. Thanks. a kennedy Apr 2023 #52

Why did they pepper spray him ? JI7 Apr 2023 #57

What would you do if you were a woman and a man ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #60

If I was stealing I would know why I was being chased JI7 Apr 2023 #61

another claim of self defense? treestar Apr 2023 #69