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H2O Man

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33. Interesting.
Sat Apr 15, 2023, 08:14 PM
Apr 2023

There are, of course, a number of ways that people understand and thus view things. It is not restricted to "intelligence" or if a person is "hood." Let's take a brief look at what can be applied in general to the way that different people understand things, and thus take positions. It is something that applies to human beings throughout modern history.

Let's consider the example of even the topics discussed on this forum, but in the wider context of our society. A person might:
1: find it interesting, but not know enough about it to have a firm opinion;
2: not understand it, because it is not reduced to a meme or bumper-sticker;
3: understand it correctly, but recognize that there are other rqually valid ways to understand it;
4: understand it correctly, but lack the ability to accept that different perspectives are equally valid;
5: not have a clue, but be certain that they and those who agree with them are right.

1 and 3 have overall advantages in a greater number of situations. 2 are not prone to adding value to any discussion. 4 provides proof that my late friend Rubin was correct in saying that those who lack the ability to compare are restricting in their ability to understand. And 5, of course, are just obnoxious.

Now let's consider the primary overlap between groups 4 and 5: they are convinced that those who do not view things just as they do, are either ignorant fools or purposeful liars. We see this in the most pathetic examples of sov cits, be they on the roadside or in court. They believe in the superstitions and conspiracies handed down through the fenerations, exactly as noted in te linked film.

Also, that film provides a wonderful vehicle that allows group 4 to "travel" to greater understanding. As it notes, while there are many similarities within the sov cit groups, there are differences. "Moor," some of the exact same cognitive limitations -- not restricted to raw intelligence -- are found in an array of other groups. There may be one or two degrees of difference, or other times a greater number. But their inability to compare, to understand, and to realize their opinion is not the only valid one, might best be viewed in a context similar to Piaget's teachings on object permanence.

But I wrote about Piaget a week ago.

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Odd People [View all] H2O Man Apr 2023 OP
Bookmarking to watch later. 2naSalit Apr 2023 #1
I'm confident that H2O Man Apr 2023 #2
It sounds interesting. 2naSalit Apr 2023 #5
Thanks H2O Man spanone Apr 2023 #3
Thank you! H2O Man Apr 2023 #4
+1 but way too much to read. Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #6
More than anyone else, H2O Man Apr 2023 #14
Will try.. just for you :) Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #40
Everyone is on a short fuse Puppyjive Apr 2023 #7
I wish I could disagree Easterncedar Apr 2023 #9
Very interesting! H2O Man Apr 2023 #15
I've become a hermit too, but it wasn't just retiring. Covid changed many of my relationships. panader0 Apr 2023 #24
I think that the H2O Man Apr 2023 #25
I remember when I was young, telling my dad "I'm bored." panader0 Apr 2023 #27
+1. Think we're into the gradually getting back to Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #41
Wow! You opened a rabbit hole for me and I'm diving in! Thanks, H20! keopeli Apr 2023 #8
It is a curious topic. H2O Man Apr 2023 #16
I always appreciate your posts Easterncedar Apr 2023 #10
Thanks! H2O Man Apr 2023 #18
K&R PatSeg Apr 2023 #11
Thank you! H2O Man Apr 2023 #19
I watched the video Easterncedar Apr 2023 #12
Thank you! H2O Man Apr 2023 #20
Bookmarking for later today. Prairie_Seagull Apr 2023 #13
Thanks! H2O Man Apr 2023 #21
This is about sovereign citizens Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #17
From the title, H2O Man Apr 2023 #22
That is what it is about (the sovereign citizens). Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #23
I understand, and do not disagree with you. H2O Man Apr 2023 #26
While there is a fair amount of overlap, Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #28
Dusky v United States H2O Man Apr 2023 #29
It's more than a degree or two. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #30
Interesting. H2O Man Apr 2023 #33
I wouldn't put them in any of those categories. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #39
Right. H2O Man Apr 2023 #43
Freaks like Alex Jones sells his own brand supplements ? pwb Apr 2023 #31
Right. H2O Man Apr 2023 #34
I am speechless malaise Apr 2023 #32
I was sure H2O Man Apr 2023 #35
Odd people is kind malaise Apr 2023 #37
I think we'll be finding out more about how Covid (especially repeated infection) affects the brain. Nevilledog Apr 2023 #36
Right. H2O Man Apr 2023 #38
It seems to be all some people understand anymore ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #42
Very interesting. H2O Man Apr 2023 #44
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