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Fiendish Thingy

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43. Then you must reject most current reporting these days

Wed Apr 19, 2023, 10:50 AM

Apr 2023

Because using anonymous sourcing is common practice in Washington DC.

Reporting information compiled from two or more sources, anonymous or not, is the very definition of corroboration.

In this case, multiple reporters sourced information from multiple “weasels”, including multiple sitting Democratic US senators, to corroborate the story.

https://newsliteracymatters.com/2021/04/26/q-can-we-trust-a-story-with-anonymous-sources/

https://www.ap.org/about/news-values-and-principles/telling-the-story/anonymous-sources

Under AP's rules, material from anonymous sources may be used only if:

1. The material is information and not opinion or speculation, and is vital to the report.

2. The information is not available except under the conditions of anonymity imposed by the source.

3. The source is reliable, and in a position to have direct knowledge of the information.

https://ethicaljournalismnetwork.org/handling-sources

Yes, Politico has come under criticism for over use of anonymous sources:

https://www.imediaethics.org/11-examples-of-politicos-addiction-to-anonymous-sources-journalisms-crack-cocaine/

But, in this case, Politico’s initial reporting was followed up with additional original reporting by other outlets and carried by NYT, Vanity Fair, SF Chronicle, NPR, and the New Yorker.

At what point do you acknowledge that a story based on anonymous sources (which were especially commonplace during the Trump administration) isn’t “rumour mongering”?

P.S. I would think Woodward might have partially redeemed himself with his use of taped interviews in his Trump books.

As I said before, we’re not going to change each others minds; for some reason, this particular anonymously sourced story, unlike a multitude of others, has got you riled up-if you wish to continue screaming “rumour mongering” into the void, be my guest.

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Re: DiFi resigning - Rules of the Senate [View all] Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 OP

Don't go bringing facts into this ripcord Apr 2023 #1

Sigh. It is what it is. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #2

Indeed. Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #3

But the agreement also contains the ratio of members by party dsc Apr 2023 #4

No, it would not change Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #6

If she were to quit then the ratio would change it would go from 11-10 our favor dsc Apr 2023 #24

Her absence makes it a 10-10 tie right now. Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #25

I am actually saying the opposite dsc Apr 2023 #28

But it doesn't change the ratio in assigned seats, only seats currently occupied Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #30

It makes it a 10-10 present when they meet without her. Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #31

The membership would be 11D-10R for the remainder of Biden's term, regardless Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #34

Thanks. elleng Apr 2023 #5

Sounds like she needs to soldier on WhiteTara Apr 2023 #7

That's what I think.. TY White Tara Cha Apr 2023 #11

I'm sure she has quite a nice home in the DC area. Mr.Bill Apr 2023 #32

Facts Be Best :: Thank You, Sincerely (n/t) Ahna KneeMoose Apr 2023 #8

Did you know in December 2022 that she would contract shingles two months later? onenote Apr 2023 #9

My point was logistical Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #12

Yes that would have been great.. If Cha Apr 2023 #14

If I had only inthewind21 Apr 2023 #17

oh come on ProfessorPlum Apr 2023 #19

Still not following. onenote Apr 2023 #39

Yes, you're not following Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #41

Thanks. That helps me understand your post. onenote Apr 2023 #47

TY.. I had previously read Cha Apr 2023 #10

They don't need 60 votes to seat a replacement senator in the senate itself Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #13

Right.. TY Cha Apr 2023 #16

Civics inthewind21 Apr 2023 #18

Possibilities: Feinstein stays and works. Feinstein resigns, new senator appointed Hortensis Apr 2023 #15

GOP has already nixed the temporary option. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #21

Hmm, not quite. They've nixed the temporary option where Democrats Hortensis Apr 2023 #23

she was diagnosed and hospitalized with shingles in FEBRUARY bigtree Apr 2023 #20

The reports of dementia aren't unfounded Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #22

they absolutely are bigtree Apr 2023 #26

Not unfounded, just unconfirmed. Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #29

I read that account and it wasn't a clear as you say bigtree Apr 2023 #33

I saw the video, it was quite impactful. Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #35

you can get a lot of those clips from any aged person. bigtree Apr 2023 #36

I'm not claiming anything is a proven fact Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #37

anonymous, unnamed accounts aren't corroboration bigtree Apr 2023 #38

Where have you been the past 50 years? Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #40

like I said, it's the word of a Politico reporter bigtree Apr 2023 #42

Then you must reject most current reporting these days Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #43

I do. Did I not make that clear? bigtree Apr 2023 #44

This should be the only thread on this topic as it is the only correct thread. Justice Apr 2023 #27

Feinstein deserves the opportunity to make a full recovery before being jostled out of office. MrsCoffee Apr 2023 #45

I agree, but there is one significant distinction between Feinstein and Fetterman Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #46

All the more reason for a little patience. MrsCoffee Apr 2023 #48

As I said before, her return to the judiciary committee is the only viable option at this point. Fiendish Thingy Apr 2023 #49

Criticism is one thing. MrsCoffee Apr 2023 #50