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Model35mech

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30. When we get rid of guns and ammo sales we'll need a new way to fund wildlife.
Wed Apr 19, 2023, 03:39 PM
Apr 2023

Over 80% of Americans support wildlife conservation. Currently near 80% of funding for conservation comes from excise taxes collected on the sale of guns/ammo, and fishing equipment.

No gun and ammo sales = no money from the top revenue source (Pittman-Robertson Funds), which were enacted as user fees on hunters in 1937. Those funds have done TREMENDOUS good in setting aside habitat.


In 2020 roughly 40K of 49K gun homicides in the US occurred in METRO AREAS. There is a very clear asymmetry in gun homicides that occur in Metro vs Non Metro areas. Most non-metro area homicides are suicides. Most Metro area gun homicides are related to crime, frequently gang or variously organized criminals.

As you might expect that results in a very polarized orientation between metro and non-metro citizens to the gun problems we face.

The 2nd amendment doesn't take these differences into account, it applies to the United States like a universal coat of paint.

And THAT is what mostly is in the way of Metro areas developing common sense gun regulation for their communities' alarmingly high rate of gun homicides.

I think the US could deal with gun homicides if solutions were allowed to reflect both Community Problems and Community based
desires for solutions.

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This is crazy talk Downsouthjukin Apr 2023 #1
Thank you for making my point Cyrano Apr 2023 #3
'I'm as liberal as they come". LuckyCharms Apr 2023 #5
Welcome to DU maxsolomon Apr 2023 #7
Umm, no. It's not hyperbole. It's about children butchered by a gun. Cyrano Apr 2023 #21
You think this is remotely realistic? maxsolomon Apr 2023 #24
WHY??? GenXer47 Apr 2023 #16
Denmark allows private ownership of guns so I'm not sure what you're on about. sir pball Apr 2023 #38
If THAT was the price of NEVER having another child killed in school, would you then? Ferrets are Cool Apr 2023 #19
Japan seems more peace loving. Frasier Balzov Apr 2023 #23
Probably because a great many people feel like they need guns to protect their own kids? Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2023 #2
I mean how about if we just did.... Something? edisdead Apr 2023 #22
Yeah ... something definitely would've been better than nothing, no argument there (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2023 #27
I totally agree CanonRay Apr 2023 #4
I am all for much more stringent gun laws. Downsouthjukin Apr 2023 #6
So Long As They're Being Paid Off By NRA & Gun Manufacturers, repubs Will NEVER Outlaw Gun Ownership SoCalDavidS Apr 2023 #9
They will. Downsouthjukin Apr 2023 #10
"It's way too late for Gun Control in America" -Steve Earle, Live at the BBC maxsolomon Apr 2023 #8
we collect 11 billion pounds of trash per week GenXer47 Apr 2023 #14
Right, I'm bargaining with myself. Whereas you're a realist? maxsolomon Apr 2023 #25
Unless you were being flippant, that's got to be the most flawed analogy I've ever seen. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2023 #26
So people will just go put their expensive firearms on the curb in a can voluntarily? EX500rider Apr 2023 #28
The limits, but hardly elinates, the possible effectives of new gun control laws Silent3 Apr 2023 #31
I'm all for that. maxsolomon Apr 2023 #33
Or limited way back when moondust Apr 2023 #11
2A was for slave owners GenXer47 Apr 2023 #15
Yes, that too. moondust Apr 2023 #20
Well, no. Bonx Apr 2023 #12
So who would enforce this and how? Archae Apr 2023 #13
Start showing the corpses superpatriotman Apr 2023 #17
Why are guns more important than children's lives? Ferrets are Cool Apr 2023 #18
We are living in the most serious moral decline in American history. Irish_Dem Apr 2023 #29
When we get rid of guns and ammo sales we'll need a new way to fund wildlife. Model35mech Apr 2023 #30
No, it should not have, but the lack of serious reforms limiting what is owned is a huge failure and themaguffin Apr 2023 #32
The 2nd amendment has become the problem. We need change in it Model35mech Apr 2023 #35
I don't see that ever happening. btw, it should have been called the "slave patrol amendment" themaguffin Apr 2023 #36
The hard takes time, the impossible takes somewhat longer Model35mech Apr 2023 #37
We should repeal the 2nd Amendment scarletlib Apr 2023 #34
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