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ProSense

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42. Hmmm?

Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:47 AM

Jan 2012

Your quote from one of the threads you linked to: "...he hasn't been railing against "wasteful spending," he has been attacking the MIC. He's pushing propaganda."

Is it propaganda when Obama says it, too? Is Obama attacking the MIC, in your view? And why is that a bad thing?

It appears that you agree that all Paul was doing was railing against "wasteful spending." I never said that Obama was "attacking the MIC," but some have certainly argued that Paul was going to destroy the MIC and that's why the establishment "fears" him. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Cutting wasteful spending, trying to reduce the size of the military and loosening the MIC's grip on the government are good things.

Paul's propaganda is another thing entirely.

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