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former9thward

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34. I don't really know the point you are trying to make in these replies.

Sun Apr 23, 2023, 08:41 PM

Apr 2023

The first ten amendments were added as a restriction of the powers of the federal government over individuals. Originally they did not apply to the states. In fact a Supreme Court decision in 1883, Barron v. Baltimore, stated exactly that. Then starting in 1925 the Supreme Court started a process called incorporation where they said that certain sections of the Bill of Rights -- and even certain clauses -- were fundamental liberties and state governments would be restricted from depriving individuals from their rights. Incorporation began with Gitlow v. New York where the Court incorporated First Amendment restrictions to the states.

There have been many other posters on this thread stating the core of what I have said probably with better words.

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New talking point: 1st Amendment was written to protect the church from the state [View all] Nevilledog Apr 2023 OP

I'm not buying it. multigraincracker Apr 2023 #1

One slight problem with that premise Zambero Apr 2023 #2

Last I checked Zeitghost Apr 2023 #20

Point............ Lovie777 Apr 2023 #3

What a gaslit crock of shit Bristlecone Apr 2023 #4

I heard Lauren Boebert making this ridiculous point several months back In It to Win It Apr 2023 #5

When you look at all the special treatment religions get, kinda hard to disagree with. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2023 #6

A logical inconsistency... anciano Apr 2023 #7

This is exhibit A, B, C, ...Y, and Z in why we need civics education back in the schools. keep_left Apr 2023 #8

Very true Zeitghost Apr 2023 #21

Not at all new - and pretty close to correct FBaggins Apr 2023 #9

"Most countries" in Europe of the 18th century meant something different from what it would today DFW Apr 2023 #25

You're misreading the OP FBaggins Apr 2023 #27

I must be missing something, indeed DFW Apr 2023 #28

This is law school Constitutional Law 101. former9thward Apr 2023 #10

Did they teach you about the 10A in law school? f_townsend Apr 2023 #13

In law school they teach (hopefully) the real world. former9thward Apr 2023 #18

Did they also teach to ignore key components of questions? f_townsend Apr 2023 #30

If you have a point to make about the 10A, make it. former9thward Apr 2023 #31

You stated that "the BOR was written to protect individuals from restrictions by government" f_townsend Apr 2023 #32

You should read the rest of 10A FBaggins Apr 2023 #33

"or to the people" f_townsend Apr 2023 #37

I don't really know the point you are trying to make in these replies. former9thward Apr 2023 #34

Yeah, this is kind of embarrassing Sympthsical Apr 2023 #15

Gilead is what they want us to be. Funtatlaguy Apr 2023 #11

It is not just a talking point. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #12

Yes and no. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2023 #14

Simply put, a primary goal of the First Amendment was to protect the church from the state. Ms. Toad Apr 2023 #16

Our new reality? BigmanPigman Apr 2023 #17

Doesn't the First Amendment protect church and state from each other? BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2023 #19

Yes; his "protect the church from the state" is fine, it's the "not the state from the church" that muriel_volestrangler Apr 2023 #24

This is why they want to trash public education. Phoenix61 Apr 2023 #22

It goes both ways. NYC Liberal Apr 2023 #23

Written to protect We the People from tyranny. Kid Berwyn Apr 2023 #26

I actually agree to a point SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2023 #29

The church is in a full court press to take over the country. sarcasmo Apr 2023 #35

That's..... Mad_Machine76 Apr 2023 #36