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In reply to the discussion: Before Jack Smith was appointed, Merrick Garland: [View all]bigtree
(94,394 posts)...and the replies are a word salad of disinformation wholly unrelated to the dual investigations.
It's stuff out of your head which is less informing of the investigations and more representative of your own imagination.
Schiff has just been outright lying about the beginning of the investigation, first claiming Congress was ahead of DOJ when it was Garland who signed off on the witnesses before they appeared in front of the committee. He began his politically opportunistic attack on Garland by falsely claiming there wasn't an investigation of the top WH officials, which has since been refuted completely.
Now you have critics like Schiff shifting their complaints to the lie that it's taken too long, when they have zero information backing it up. They don't know the state of evidence DOJ has, and besides, the Jan. 6 committee didn't hand DOJ a smoking gun. They dumped inconclusive evidence months after the hearings, and after a year of repeated DOJ demands for the witness transcripts.
Not because DOJ hadn't already gathered evidence, as the lame ass pundits and Shiff himself misinformed about. But because they needed to reconcile it with what they'd already gathered and check for inconsistencies and anomalies. Also the actual court cases scheduledlast year were demanding the evidentiary material which the prosecution is obligated to provide them in discovery.
So, just to hurry things along, the Jan. 6 committee withheld the evidence until late fall of '22, even as Schiff was going on tv complaining about the pace of the DOJ investigation. That, in turn caused a DELAY of the PB and OK trials which the committee had taken pains to show linkage with the Trump WH on orchestrating the Capitol insurrection.
It's the same kind of adversarial approach that critics of the DOJ use here, acting as if it's some badge of virtue to attack the people working to prosecute Trump daily, with innuendo, falsities, and and revisionism. Now the suggestion is something, something about the Mueller investigation. They should do this or that, as if that's the key to everything and DOJ is either hapless or negligent.
It's just a farce, and it doesn't deserve niceties, not for anyone claiming to be in support of the process who can't be bothered to represent the actual state of the probes as actual facts come out. To, me, that's not 'friendly' toward justice, it's just aggravating and unhelpful here in a place where facts should reign, especially as an information source.
This a thread with receipts. To understand the Garland/Smith investigations, you need to understand the culpability or materiality of each of the people listed in the op. If you skip over all of that, you may well have missed the very things you're complaining about.
It's a daunting list of DOJ actions BEFORE Smith came along which tracks the Trump WH conspiracy, and lays the foundation for the progress critics of Garland celebrating events today are working to disassociate from these very significant moves early in his appointment.
Notwithstanding whatever motivation you may have for believing you know better than the Justice Dept. prosecutors, or have more motivation than they do to find evidence of crimes and convict, this is a DOJ effort that's wrapping up one of the most wide-ranging, and encompassing investigations in its history.
I think THAT deserves our attention, more than these speculative complaints about Garland which come without any citation other than repeating someone else's nonfactual angst, and a laundry list of suggestions for a very capable and committed DOJ already well ahead of where most of these same critics had claimed they weren't even destined.
You can see from the list in the op that Schiff was just flat wrong about DOJ's efforts before Congress stepped up. He should be ashamed for repeating that lie, but he'll likely dissemble on it, just as every other critic has, and will, as this investigation phase moves to a close.