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39. this isn't Brazil
Fri Apr 28, 2023, 10:22 AM
Apr 2023

...and as the op informs, DOJ also took things in hand quite quickly.

Besides, you're actually exaggerating the Brazilian's response.

from Brookings:

President Lula’s peaceful inauguration and Bolsonaro’s departure from Brazil — makes it both more puzzling and distinct from the January 6 attack on the Capitol. While Brazil’s federal institutions have admirably held the line against anti-democratic forces, what is now abundantly clear is that the embrace of authoritarianism has found a foothold in a country that 38 years ago emerged from repressive military rule. Although Bolsonaro’s direct role — if any — in Sunday’s attack remains unclear, the authoritarian norms that precipitated it have seemingly become entrenched amongst a subset of the population, perhaps even without the overt backing of the former president.

A different kind of insurrection

As the attack unfolded in Brasília, Congress was not in session, and federal buildings were largely vacant. With the transfer of power complete, the assault on the Superior Federal Court, National Congress, and the presidential palace seemed without clear purpose or organization. While rioters offered vague justification about occupying the building until the military intervened to overturn the election, they seemed to primarily focus on ransacking the place. Videos and images of Bolsonaro supporters bashing windows, destroying works of art, looting government documents, lighting fire to carpets, and even defecating on desks circulated widely online, often shared by those defacing federal property. There were even concerns that Bolsonaro supporters had made off with the original copy of the 1988 Brazilian Constitution, which later proved to only be a replica.

Unlike in the United States, the actions of these bolsonaristas did not directly threaten the lives of elected officials or seek to stop a constitutional process. But they did represent a clear demonstration of their disdain for democracy, laying bare the underlying authoritarian impulses motivating at least some of the former president’s supporters. They also highlighted the clear power of disinformation to mobilize even just a small fraction of partisans, who with thousands of rabid supporters committed destabilizing and destructive acts of violence.

What is more alarming about the events in Brasília is the total complacency of local government and public security officials from the Federal District (DF). Unlike Washington, D.C., the Federal District — home to Brasília — has the governing capabilities of both a state and municipality, and security forces within the DF are responsible for protecting federal buildings. Yet while the attack unfolded, Bolsonaro supporters met surprisingly limited resistance.

Although the District-level government failed to meet the challenge, Brazil’s federal institutions once again showed their resilience to anti-democratic attacks, despite their relative youth. After news of the invasion broke, Lula declared a federal intervention of the District’s public security. With congressional approval, this allows the federal government to control public security until the end of the month. Alongside other federal forces, the military eventually intervened, drawing cheers from Bolsonaro supporters, but did so only to clear protesters from federal buildings (importantly, several military officials reportedly participated in the vandalism, highlighting clear internal divisions amongst Brazil’s armed forces). The Supreme Federal Tribunal Court also swiftly suspended the governor of the DF for 90 days, pending an investigation into his “ painful absence” during the attack. Somewhere between 200 and 400 people were arrested immediately, and less than 24 hours later, the federal government had detained more than 1,500 people for questioning about their involvement in the attempted coup, with more arrests underway.

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Garland was very busy before the appointment of Jack Smith LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #1
Yeah but, the whiners gotta whine. It's all they know. tritsofme Apr 2023 #2
and backed away from trump republianmushroom Apr 2023 #3
I challenge the critics to compare Bill Barr's "accomplishments" to Garland's. live love laugh Apr 2023 #4
Under Bill Barr as AG, in 22 months, gab13by13 Apr 2023 #10
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by all means, let's divert from the actual investigations closing in on Trump bigtree Apr 2023 #16
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the entire premise is a diversion bigtree Apr 2023 #21
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+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #34
Exactly. Because Barr hid it. live love laugh Apr 2023 #23
how many were convicted of seditious conspiracy? bigtree Apr 2023 #12
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kinda incongruous alongside complaints the DOJ is taking too much time bigtree Apr 2023 #29
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TY AG Merrick Garland. Cha Apr 2023 #5
K&R brer cat Apr 2023 #6
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Joinfortmill Apr 2023 #7
And got convictions on almost 1000 of the 1/6 terrorists relayerbob Apr 2023 #8
✔️+ live love laugh Apr 2023 #24
K&R - Thank you! relayerbob Apr 2023 #9
I have faith in Fani Willis, gab13by13 Apr 2023 #13
I don't believe you. bigtree Apr 2023 #17
And Cohen was just revenge from the Trump mafioso. live love laugh Apr 2023 #25
Thank you thank you thank you. BOOKMARKING Hekate Apr 2023 #14
Thank you for this very informative post. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #15
Thank you for reminding us. Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2023 #18
It's taken too long. lees1975 Apr 2023 #20
I'm happy we don't have prosecutors who are just presenting news articles to jurors bigtree Apr 2023 #26
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fark that. There is nothing supportive of the DOJ investigation in any of these complaints bigtree Apr 2023 #36
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it's hard to engage facts with innuendo, cynicism, and outright falsehoods. bigtree Apr 2023 #40
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I won't coddle misinformation bigtree Apr 2023 #43
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Have you listened to The Midas Touch on you tube? They are lawyers pwb Apr 2023 #35
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this isn't Brazil bigtree Apr 2023 #39
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responding to you on my own thread isn't bullying bigtree Apr 2023 #45
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read the room bigtree Apr 2023 #47
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I was thinking of how this reminds me bigtree Apr 2023 #49
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2023 #31
K&R betsuni Apr 2023 #33
Sshhh... I've been told that supporting Garland is what MAGATs do nt AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2023 #50
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #51
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