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6. The only problem with that: most of the really desirable countries...

Reply to Tom Yossarian Joad (Original post)

Sun May 7, 2023, 05:04 PM

May 2023

...already started closing their doors to foreigners a long time ago. But you probably already knew that. Still, I know that Jesse Ventura moved to Mexico (Baja, I think). And the writer and historian Morris Berman (Why America Failed) also lives in Mexico. Both of them are pretty happy with their choices.

Whatever you do, please maintain your US citizenship and continue to vote! Most of us won't be able to escape.

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I'm close to the point of just giving up and moving to a safer country with proper health care. [View all] Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 OP

My wife and I have strongly considered this option. OrlandoDem2 May 2023 #1

Where are you looking at going? yardwork May 2023 #64

We like Spain. OrlandoDem2 May 2023 #91

Last one out is a rotten egg so start your planning early bucolic_frolic May 2023 #2

We've already looked at rural Italian property with Olive orchard. WarGamer May 2023 #3

Italy is run by a far-right government too Marius25 May 2023 #22

It's NOTHING like the USA... I like it. WarGamer May 2023 #25

What do you like about it? Marius25 May 2023 #28

Could be the lack of daily mass shootings. Mr.Bill May 2023 #29

But that's true of all European countries Marius25 May 2023 #30

It's a long story... WarGamer May 2023 #31

Interesting. We definitely don't agree on this Marius25 May 2023 #35

Have you been there? WarGamer May 2023 #37

Orban, lol... WarGamer May 2023 #39

No it isn't. That's literally what this thread is about. Marius25 May 2023 #41

I'd say the US has a long history of being... this way. WarGamer May 2023 #46

We are living amongst Dorian Gray May 2023 #62

Italy is far right and very racist..I lived there for 2 years. Oregon1947 May 2023 #81

That's YOUR experience, I have mine. WarGamer May 2023 #82

Mine is not an experience..its a fact. Oregon1947 May 2023 #83

Nope, old white dude. WarGamer May 2023 #88

I have three friends who moved to Panama and like it. Patterson May 2023 #4

My brother and I have looked into Panama. It's really appealing. Lochloosa May 2023 #7

It's appealing until a US RW gov't decides to invade it or sanction it Marcus IM May 2023 #15

And a murder rate Zeitghost May 2023 #42

Which country wants tons of Americans coming to use them? Marcus IM May 2023 #5

Most countries have income/financial asset requirements for residency visas Victor_c3 May 2023 #16

And waiting lists Marcus IM May 2023 #17

Well, the rate we're going, a lot of us might qualify soon! yardwork May 2023 #65

Health, too. WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #26

Can you elaborate? keep_left May 2023 #59

Many countries will not allow you to immigrate if they determine any disability you have might put WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #60

Wow, I didn't know anything about this. keep_left May 2023 #75

Or deposit 25k in a Thai account... WarGamer May 2023 #27

Chaing Mai is wonderful except for 2-3 months Phoenix61 May 2023 #71

The North looks amazing... WarGamer May 2023 #72

Not A Lot NowISeetheLight May 2023 #55

I've Looked RobinA May 2023 #78

The only problem with that: most of the really desirable countries... keep_left May 2023 #6

My guess is that it'll be majority white? Kaleva May 2023 #8

Like Costa Rica? Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #9

Is Costa Rica your pick? Kaleva May 2023 #21

Odd, because when people look for peaceful parts of the world how could the miss the ME? Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #24

Oman is very peaceful Kaleva May 2023 #44

Can't drink Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #47

Not true Kaleva May 2023 #50

I wouldn't want to live in theocracy of any kind. Plus the idea od having to get Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #51

If booze is more important then safety, then Oman is out Kaleva May 2023 #52

Theocracy is more important. I was being glib, sorry. Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #54

In the top ten. Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #32

What are the other nine? Kaleva May 2023 #40

Places I have considered... Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #53

Good list! Kaleva May 2023 #56

Jamaica? EX500rider May 2023 #86

Are you suggesting that a country would have to be "majority white" to be good place to live? TomSlick May 2023 #12

I'm not moving. I'm referring to those who have said they might Kaleva May 2023 #23

And yet the question remains. TomSlick May 2023 #57

Look at the populations of the nations often mentioned Kaleva May 2023 #66

I don't think primarily "English speaking" is an unreasonable criteria meadowlander May 2023 #73

English is common in many parts of the world Kaleva May 2023 #77

I am staying, if for no other reason to be a pain in MAGA's ass. Chainfire May 2023 #10

+1000 Marcus IM May 2023 #13

Word. mahina May 2023 #14

I agree, I would actually like to buy a house in a red state like North Carolina JI7 May 2023 #34

Come to North Carolina! yardwork May 2023 #67

Would if I could, but I can't, so I won't Lettuce Be May 2023 #11

And yet ABC polling has Trump up +7 over Biden Marius25 May 2023 #19

I agree. I want to move to another country. Marius25 May 2023 #18

I don't blame you. It feels like the wheels are spinning off the US. No idea anymore what the RKP5637 May 2023 #20

Understandable. SYFROYH May 2023 #33

Panama, you can even drive back if it Baked Potato May 2023 #36

If one is looking for more safety from crime and violence Zeitghost May 2023 #43

I will never permanently leave America, my country. Baked Potato May 2023 #61

I get it Zeitghost May 2023 #76

Costa Rica is actually really safe. Elessar Zappa May 2023 #80

Yeah, no on CR EX500rider May 2023 #87

I mean LOL how ridiculous +1000 GuppyGal May 2023 #68

Golden Visas PJMcK May 2023 #38

I have dual citizenship and both my sons live in Europe Mr. Ected May 2023 #45

Been Looking NowISeetheLight May 2023 #48

I just CANNOT even think of this bluestarone May 2023 #49

what options do you have? treestar May 2023 #58

Depending on where you live it might happen here. roamer65 May 2023 #63

Well what are you waiting for...you should be packing. nt GuppyGal May 2023 #69

That reminds me of the "love it or leave it' rhetoric I used to hear... Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #70

I've looked at Belize MySideOfTown May 2023 #74

good luck finding a country that will take you WhiteTara May 2023 #79

This budkin May 2023 #89

My wife and I had actual job offers when we were young... hunter May 2023 #84

Based on what admissions process? brooklynite May 2023 #85

What's "proper?" DFW May 2023 #90