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Dorian Gray

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62. We are living amongst

Sun May 7, 2023, 09:58 PM

May 2023

hundreds of mass shootings. That doesn't exist in any of the other countries, even if they have leaders we don't agree with.

I would move to italy in a heartbeat right now. Without a doubt. (Though I wouldn't move to dubai. There is a ton of corruption there, and the lifestyle doesn't benefit women.)

I've lived in China. While I wouldn't want to move back there right now, either, it would feel a ton safer than the majority of the usa.

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I'm close to the point of just giving up and moving to a safer country with proper health care. [View all] Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 OP

My wife and I have strongly considered this option. OrlandoDem2 May 2023 #1

Where are you looking at going? yardwork May 2023 #64

We like Spain. OrlandoDem2 May 2023 #91

Last one out is a rotten egg so start your planning early bucolic_frolic May 2023 #2

We've already looked at rural Italian property with Olive orchard. WarGamer May 2023 #3

Italy is run by a far-right government too Marius25 May 2023 #22

It's NOTHING like the USA... I like it. WarGamer May 2023 #25

What do you like about it? Marius25 May 2023 #28

Could be the lack of daily mass shootings. Mr.Bill May 2023 #29

But that's true of all European countries Marius25 May 2023 #30

It's a long story... WarGamer May 2023 #31

Interesting. We definitely don't agree on this Marius25 May 2023 #35

Have you been there? WarGamer May 2023 #37

Orban, lol... WarGamer May 2023 #39

No it isn't. That's literally what this thread is about. Marius25 May 2023 #41

I'd say the US has a long history of being... this way. WarGamer May 2023 #46

We are living amongst Dorian Gray May 2023 #62

Italy is far right and very racist..I lived there for 2 years. Oregon1947 May 2023 #81

That's YOUR experience, I have mine. WarGamer May 2023 #82

Mine is not an experience..its a fact. Oregon1947 May 2023 #83

Nope, old white dude. WarGamer May 2023 #88

I have three friends who moved to Panama and like it. Patterson May 2023 #4

My brother and I have looked into Panama. It's really appealing. Lochloosa May 2023 #7

It's appealing until a US RW gov't decides to invade it or sanction it Marcus IM May 2023 #15

And a murder rate Zeitghost May 2023 #42

Which country wants tons of Americans coming to use them? Marcus IM May 2023 #5

Most countries have income/financial asset requirements for residency visas Victor_c3 May 2023 #16

And waiting lists Marcus IM May 2023 #17

Well, the rate we're going, a lot of us might qualify soon! yardwork May 2023 #65

Health, too. WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #26

Can you elaborate? keep_left May 2023 #59

Many countries will not allow you to immigrate if they determine any disability you have might put WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #60

Wow, I didn't know anything about this. keep_left May 2023 #75

Or deposit 25k in a Thai account... WarGamer May 2023 #27

Chaing Mai is wonderful except for 2-3 months Phoenix61 May 2023 #71

The North looks amazing... WarGamer May 2023 #72

Not A Lot NowISeetheLight May 2023 #55

I've Looked RobinA May 2023 #78

The only problem with that: most of the really desirable countries... keep_left May 2023 #6

My guess is that it'll be majority white? Kaleva May 2023 #8

Like Costa Rica? Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #9

Is Costa Rica your pick? Kaleva May 2023 #21

Odd, because when people look for peaceful parts of the world how could the miss the ME? Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #24

Oman is very peaceful Kaleva May 2023 #44

Can't drink Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #47

Not true Kaleva May 2023 #50

I wouldn't want to live in theocracy of any kind. Plus the idea od having to get Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #51

If booze is more important then safety, then Oman is out Kaleva May 2023 #52

Theocracy is more important. I was being glib, sorry. Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #54

In the top ten. Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #32

What are the other nine? Kaleva May 2023 #40

Places I have considered... Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #53

Good list! Kaleva May 2023 #56

Jamaica? EX500rider May 2023 #86

Are you suggesting that a country would have to be "majority white" to be good place to live? TomSlick May 2023 #12

I'm not moving. I'm referring to those who have said they might Kaleva May 2023 #23

And yet the question remains. TomSlick May 2023 #57

Look at the populations of the nations often mentioned Kaleva May 2023 #66

I don't think primarily "English speaking" is an unreasonable criteria meadowlander May 2023 #73

English is common in many parts of the world Kaleva May 2023 #77

I am staying, if for no other reason to be a pain in MAGA's ass. Chainfire May 2023 #10

+1000 Marcus IM May 2023 #13

Word. mahina May 2023 #14

I agree, I would actually like to buy a house in a red state like North Carolina JI7 May 2023 #34

Come to North Carolina! yardwork May 2023 #67

Would if I could, but I can't, so I won't Lettuce Be May 2023 #11

And yet ABC polling has Trump up +7 over Biden Marius25 May 2023 #19

I agree. I want to move to another country. Marius25 May 2023 #18

I don't blame you. It feels like the wheels are spinning off the US. No idea anymore what the RKP5637 May 2023 #20

Understandable. SYFROYH May 2023 #33

Panama, you can even drive back if it Baked Potato May 2023 #36

If one is looking for more safety from crime and violence Zeitghost May 2023 #43

I will never permanently leave America, my country. Baked Potato May 2023 #61

I get it Zeitghost May 2023 #76

Costa Rica is actually really safe. Elessar Zappa May 2023 #80

Yeah, no on CR EX500rider May 2023 #87

I mean LOL how ridiculous +1000 GuppyGal May 2023 #68

Golden Visas PJMcK May 2023 #38

I have dual citizenship and both my sons live in Europe Mr. Ected May 2023 #45

Been Looking NowISeetheLight May 2023 #48

I just CANNOT even think of this bluestarone May 2023 #49

what options do you have? treestar May 2023 #58

Depending on where you live it might happen here. roamer65 May 2023 #63

Well what are you waiting for...you should be packing. nt GuppyGal May 2023 #69

That reminds me of the "love it or leave it' rhetoric I used to hear... Tom Yossarian Joad May 2023 #70

I've looked at Belize MySideOfTown May 2023 #74

good luck finding a country that will take you WhiteTara May 2023 #79

This budkin May 2023 #89

My wife and I had actual job offers when we were young... hunter May 2023 #84

Based on what admissions process? brooklynite May 2023 #85

What's "proper?" DFW May 2023 #90