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TheFarseer

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69. No one is trying to silence anyone

Reply to RegulatedCapitalistD (Reply #62)

Mon May 8, 2023, 09:10 PM

May 2023

I’m sure both sides felt like they had to hold back. Because we are essentially in the same side, that’s how primaries worked until Trump blundered Onto the scene. Let’s just agree that we had different experiences in 2016.

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Opinion: Why Joe Biden Needs a Primary Challenger [View all] brooklynite May 2023 OP

No thanks. CentralMass May 2023 #1

Sanders did in 2020 what I wished he would do back in 2016. Mister Ed May 2023 #2

The Clinton campaign ran a scorched Earth style of campaigning. CentralMass May 2023 #6

As a Sanders supporter, that was not my perception. Mister Ed May 2023 #9

No. The opposite. Hillary: "I felt like I was wearing a straitjacket." betsuni May 2023 #15

Thank you....many people were banned from DU RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #40

That's not how I remember it TheFarseer May 2023 #56

That is totally false.....Let me introduce you to the concept of BernieBros. RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #58

BernieBros are a myth Rob H. May 2023 #61

Uh no no it was not a myth RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #62

No one is trying to silence anyone TheFarseer May 2023 #69

Same as then.....pretend that it is not RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #70

You seem really bitter TheFarseer May 2023 #72

Those who forget the past RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #73

Democrats are still accused of ignoring the working class and that didn't come from the Right. betsuni May 2023 #83

Whoa whoa whoa TheFarseer May 2023 #100

I didn't say anything about supporters or anything about being "censored" in that comment. betsuni May 2023 #102

I was kind of trying to reply to a couple posters TheFarseer May 2023 #105

Ironic. Torchlight May 2023 #103

Women journalists lived it. Amy Chozick, "Chasing Hillary": betsuni May 2023 #64

Bwahahahahahahahaha! edisdead May 2023 #66

Post removed Post removed May 2023 #60

Scorched earth? You must be thinking of Jeff Weaver. emulatorloo May 2023 #26

That's for sure. betsuni May 2023 #27

And lets not even bring up Paul Manafort and Tad Devine's history of chumminess. RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #41

Having supported Hillary in 2008 and voting for her then and in the general in 2016 CentralMass May 2023 #63

No, she didn't, CentralMass. The nation was awash in poison Kool-Aid Hortensis May 2023 #30

What were the differences between the 2016 and 2020 platforms? You're saying the 2016 betsuni May 2023 #31

Yeah, that's revisionist history. W_HAMILTON May 2023 #50

Wish I could upvote.....this is the kind of RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #75

Seriously? She barely laid a glove on him. StevieM May 2023 #57

Sanders endorsed Clinton with faint praise & campaigned for her tepidly. elocs May 2023 #35

And remember how close to the event he finally conceded and then RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #74

Yes Joe Biden has won something like nine elections so let's just all tell him how to do it Walleye May 2023 #3

And is oh so helpful RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #10

bernie did so much more in 2020 rampartc May 2023 #4

+1 CentralMass May 2023 #7

Biting my tongue RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #11

we are democrats. we need not agree, or bite our tongues. rampartc May 2023 #36

Ummmmmm....might want to check his registration...he caucus's with us...so does Kristen Sinema. RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #39

2008, 2016, 2020 party platforms were all the most liberal in history. betsuni May 2023 #5

This! mcar May 2023 #68

Just more sour grapes.... RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #76

"Why the New York Times needs Biden to have a challenger" Phoenix61 May 2023 #8

Exactly ....thank you RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #12

+1 uponit7771 May 2023 #13

+1 Spazito May 2023 #48

+1 treestar May 2023 #89

Stupid JustAnotherGen May 2023 #14

America's new cold war against Beijing Blues Heron May 2023 #16

Let's make out own stuff. China is not our friend Demsrule86 May 2023 #19

I agree, but not remotely likely any time soon. Blues Heron May 2023 #21

Give Bernie all the credit for Kamala's hard work. Beastly Boy May 2023 #17

Kamala wasn't even a senator for very long but had an impressive legislative record. betsuni May 2023 #20

And before that she was the AG of California 2011-2017, which is not a small job. Hekate May 2023 #44

She is a woman......thats all it takes RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #77

Absolutely not. Anytime a sitting Demsrule86 May 2023 #18

Yup, and their side loses too when their sitting President is challenged Polybius May 2023 #45

About the only benefit I could see to Biden having minor primary opposition would be it would give Midwestern Democrat May 2023 #22

He needs more practice? At what? betsuni May 2023 #23

THIS RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #78

thought that too treestar May 2023 #88

Biden has won a lot of elections. And a lot of debates. He doesn't really need "practice." emulatorloo May 2023 #24

Yeah, he was able to have a really easy campaign due to Covid last time, but not this time liberal_mama May 2023 #47

Why is anyone listening to this guy? EYESORE 9001 May 2023 #25

Oh Shit.. I remember Peter Beinart.. Cha May 2023 #53

What a fucking joke . It just never stops . JI7 May 2023 #28

If there was a Democrat.. quickesst May 2023 #29

Joe Biden is now all that stands between us and RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #80

Exactly.... quickesst May 2023 #84

Exactly just like many RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #85

One of the reasons... quickesst May 2023 #87

Same old "I'd vote for a woman, just not THAT woman" which was supposed to only mean Hillary betsuni May 2023 #86

Yep... quickesst May 2023 #92

+1 million zillion treestar May 2023 #90

Appreciate it treestar... quickesst May 2023 #93

What a bunch of rubbish. Just A Box Of Rain May 2023 #32

Post removed Post removed May 2023 #108

Every time an incumbent president has had a strong primary challenger he has lost. DemocratSinceBirth May 2023 #33

Yup, although I think Bush still loses 1992 with no Buchanan Polybius May 2023 #46

They lose because a strong primary challenge indicates a weak incumbent. DemocratSinceBirth May 2023 #104

I wouldn't call 1992 a particular strong challenge though Polybius May 2023 #106

The Cold War stuff needs to be opposed. David__77 May 2023 #34

Boy, they desperately want TFG to win mcar May 2023 #37

This is a stupid idea designed to help to re-elect TFG LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #38

This is Rich men who do not want to pay more taxes RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #81

Biggest mistake of Teddy Kennedy's career was challenging Jimmy Carter. They both lost. Hekate May 2023 #42

Peter Beinart hasn't.. he was For the War On Iraq.. Cha May 2023 #54

What was his reasoning for primarying Carter? Mad_Machine76 May 2023 #59

I don't believe in primaries Mad_Machine76 May 2023 #43

What a load of codswallop. Spazito May 2023 #49

Some might even call it bullshit edisdead May 2023 #67

on top of a bunch of treestar May 2023 #91

Exactly! Spazito May 2023 #94

The NYT wants to re-elect TFG LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #51

TY & TLP! Cha May 2023 #65

NYT, stirring the shit. Scrivener7 May 2023 #52

No. Any challenger needs to negotiate behind closed doors ecstatic May 2023 #55

I think it could be good for Democrats if they were on TV debating the issues... kentuck May 2023 #71

History does not support your opinion RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #82

There is no history to study in unprecedented times. kentuck May 2023 #95

There is not unprecendented....we have been headed down this path for decades... RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #97

"The ONLY thing the Right does better than Democrats is messaging..." kentuck May 2023 #99

NO I do not want to give the impression that we are the ones infighting RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #101

HEY brooklynite! So are you here advocating DemocraticPatriot May 2023 #79

No, he doesn't. ismnotwasm May 2023 #96

Any other election I would be okay with a primary challenger. It's any citizens constitutional right Autumn May 2023 #98

Two straight-up fascist authoritarian assholes are currently the leading GOP candidates. LudwigPastorius May 2023 #107