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In reply to the discussion: Let's Not Forget OWS... [View all]Summer Hathaway
(2,770 posts)"Idols and pedestals" is the language used to try to marginalize the 'left'." Where I see those terms used the most on this board is towards staunch Obama supporters, whose support is frequently characterized as "idol worship".
The contingent here who throw that accusation around are almost invariably the same people who put Greenwald and Assange on pedestals. Ironically, but not surprisingly, they never see in themselves the very behavior they decry in others.
"The left fyi, has no idols, most especially they do not idolize politicians." Again, some people here cannot distinguish between support and idolization - except when they're the ones doing the idolizing. I have seen posts about Kucinich, for example, that look like they were lifted from a movie fan mag.
I don't need a lecture from you about what the "left" is, nor anything else to do with this party. Given my age, it is likely I was a registered Dem long before you were. I can also tell you that reading DU for several years has confirmed that I am far to the left of many people here.
The labels "Third Wayer, Conservadem, psuedo-Dem, corporatist", etc. are most often attached here, to myself and others, in the context of three specific types of discussions: those who do NOT idolize Glenn Greenwald nor agree with his ramblings, those who do NOT think Julian Assange is the second coming, and those who do NOT see OWS as the be-all and end-all.
Granted you spend way more time here than I do, but I have yet to see anyone advocating Third Way ideas here. I would imagine that given DU's make-up, anyone who did advocate for Third Way policies would be, or have been, made so uncomfortable as to leave of their own accord in realization that their viewpoint is not welcome, nor in keeping with the tone of this community.
If anyone advocates Third Way on DU, it would seem logical that they would be labeled as such by others - and would probably not object to being so, if that is their true position.
However, it has become a label consistently applied (by a small but annoying vocal contingent here) to anyone who, as stated above, takes on their three sacred cows: Greenwald, Assange and Occupy.
You, like your friend Nadin, seem to believe that you have some special insight into other posters' political stance - "insight" that has no basis in reality, but is simply a figment of your over-active imaginations. I should think that your rapturous idolization of BBI - who turned out to be nothing more than a very successful and prolific RW troll - would have taught you a valuable lesson about how completely wrong your alleged "insights" are.
"Oh, but I just KNOW who the Third Wayers are by the words they use, and the phrases they post." Here's a newsflash for you: You KNOW no such thing. Your assessment of other posters based on using certain words or phrases is as ignorant as it is utterly laughable.
Now, if you can provide any links to anything I have ever posted on this board that advocates Third Way, please go ahead and do so. Of course, we both know that no such comments by myself exist - but please proceed to try and locate them.
The task might be time-consuming - but at least it will keep you from using your Label-Maker for a while, the one you whip out every time someone disagrees with you, or refuses to kneel before one or more of your sacred cows.