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Layzeebeaver

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Thu May 25, 2023, 06:56 AM May 2023

UPDATE: Today, I will be turning off life support for my father... (He passed away quietly...) [View all]

Last edited Wed May 31, 2023, 06:03 AM - Edit history (10)

He's 78. Living in Arizona, west of Phoenix. I'm here in the U.K. for the past 18 years.

My mom passed away last July she was 82 - died in the ambulance following a long period of immobility and declining health. very sad, but that's another story.

My dad was hanging on, had multiple health issues. Terrible heart health - but was managing.

Unfortunately, he was under the care of my brother who is not the brightest bean in the jar.

Monday he decides to take my dad out for a "big lunch" - consisting of pot roast, mashed potatoes, gravy, coffee, and a slice of pie.

An hour later dad collapses in a gas station parking lot. Hot tarmac at noon in Arizona.

The back of his arms burning to the second degree. My brother (untrained in anything medical) attempting to do what he thinks is CPR.

The cops show up 15 min later and tell him he's doing it wrong. They take over...

The EMS team shows up and take control 15 minutes after that.. They restart his heart...

Dad is transported to the ICU. Multiple heart failures on the way.

He arrives at the hospital and my brother sends me a text (a text mind you not a phone call - WFT?) to inform me about the situation.

Now... Here I am living in the U.K. trying to manage the situation remotely with the 8hour timezone difference.

Tuesday and Wednesday are focused on life support and getting the appropriate tests done to determine the amount of damage.

Meanwhile, my brother is complaining that he can't afford to keep dad alive so he has "to pull the plug". In the meeting with the palliative care physician he starts complaining about his personal finances - WFT?

Today, this morning here in the U.K. (about 2am in AZ) I get all the tests back (MRI, CT, blood, EEG, etc.) now finally having all the info needed make a logical and empathetic decision.

It's a sad situation, but a necessary one. And one I can't be there in person to attend.

Thanks for listening... It's a small thing for the world, but I frighteningly big thing for me. Life will go on, but still... it's tough.

UPDATE: 9:30am AZ time is the planned time. My brother says he overslept and wasn't thinking he had to go - except that I told him to hear there at the hospital. Looks like my dad my die alone. At least I'll be there in spirit over the phone. I can't tell you all how angry I am at the situation.

AND THANK YOU TO ALL SO FAR. its funny (in a good way) how this little community is more family than my own family - I deeply appreciate that. I want to respond to each of you individually, but I just can't do that at the moment.

UPDATE 2: Its turning into a piss-up at the brewery. My brother has decided to call in all the opinions of extended family members (not immediate only as the law and hospital policy require!) and so now we are waiting... meanwhile my dad remains in situ. we are 2 hours behind the schedule. I was on the phone, and there my brother was cracking jokes with the med team. I could just scream. Told them to advise me when they were going to be finally ready. Still waiting... If my dad were knowledgable of this he would be spitting nails! I've resigned myself that I can no longer control the procedure in a way that provides any level of dignity. So, I quietly made my peace with the situation, hung up the phone with the Dr. agreeing to call me once they get the process going.

UPDATE 3: (Friday Morning 8am GMT) it was nearly midnight in the UK when they FINALLY started the procedure. FOUR hours of waiting for people to bring paperwork to sign, etc. There was no indication from the palliative care doctor that this was part of the process. Such ridiculous process management. Once you make the decision to terminate life support, they revert to an impersonal administrative procedure. Very little human thought or emotional empathy from the hospital. I have woken up here in the U.K. at 7am and checked for an update... It appears that my dad is still hanging on. Supposedly, he is not suffering, but it's hard to tell with so little information coming from the Med Team. Not to mention my brother's antics. This might go on for days. THANK YOU TO EVERYONE HERE! It's cathartic to be able to voice my inner frustrations and know there so many of you out there with kindness in your hearts. I hope to over time reply to each and every one's kind messages...

FINAL UPDATE: Sorry it's been a few days but it's been a bit of a rollercoaster... My father died peacefully under hospice care on Friday at 12:45am local Arizona time. As you can imagine I've been focused on cleanup of the domestic situation, financials, will, etc. It's a mess - similar to my parent's and brother's living conditions. It's a long story. My apologies in advance, I intended to respond to every message from all of you but it will take me some time. I've made my peace with the situation and circumstances, now it's just dealing with the fallout of parents who failed to plan appropriately for their death, and a parasitic brother who is only concerned with property and money. I guess we've all had a bit of that in our lives... Thank you ALL for your kind words. My words are not enough to convey my thanks.

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It is not a small thing. I feel for you. Take care of yourself. Walleye May 2023 #1
I'm so sorry. phylny May 2023 #2
You are doing a good job from far away. Irish_Dem May 2023 #3
You seem like a strong and practical person canetoad May 2023 #4
Wishing you love and strength through this hard, frightening loss. ancianita May 2023 #5
You've done an incredible job from that distance and served your father well Docreed2003 May 2023 #6
That is a very hard decision to make. brer cat May 2023 #7
That truly is tough. hamsterjill May 2023 #8
sincerest sympathy DonCoquixote May 2023 #9
So sorry to hear. I know what you're goin through... been there with my momz. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2023 #10
My condolences Ohio Joe May 2023 #11
So sorry for all you've been through, loss of your mother..now this heart wrenching decision RestoreAmerica2020 May 2023 #12
I am so sorry for you. Such a sad decision to have to make. May your father rest in peace. LoisB May 2023 #13
Oh, dear Layzeebeaver, how heartbreaking for you. thatcrowwoman May 2023 #14
I'm very sorry for your loss dlk May 2023 #15
I am so sorry that you are going through this and so far away.... samnsara May 2023 #16
Prayers for your dad. God bless. Joinfortmill May 2023 #17
I'm sorry. madaboutharry May 2023 #18
I am so sorry mgardener May 2023 #19
Wishing you comfort True Blue American May 2023 #20
Hug for you. tavernier May 2023 #21
Hugggggs, holding you and your father in light and love in this very difficult niyad May 2023 #22
Losing a parent is so hard. AmBlue May 2023 #23
Sending love to you. Hope22 May 2023 #24
Sending you all of my love... Goddessartist May 2023 #25
It is no small thing, and I send my condolences. flor-de-jasmim May 2023 #26
Yes, this is very important. lark May 2023 #32
Making the decision to "pull the plug" is such an excruciating one. lark May 2023 #27
I am sorry for your loss. Grumpy Old Guy May 2023 #28
Being so remote must make it difficult RainCaster May 2023 #29
My condoleneces Chautauquas May 2023 #30
((Layz)) blm May 2023 #31
I am sending hugs. May you soon find comfort in remembering the good times with your dad MLAA May 2023 #33
So sorry, for your loss..Trying to do it remotely is hard HipChick May 2023 #34
So difficult cate94 May 2023 #35
I am so sorry, Layzeebeaver. peacebuzzard May 2023 #36
What a difficult time. Strength to you. Gentler passing for him. electric_blue68 May 2023 #37
I am so sorry. WinstonSmith4740 May 2023 #38
I'm so sorry Danmel May 2023 #39
You, your father, and brother are in my prayers, Layzeebeaver! pazzyanne May 2023 #40
Peace and strength to you. It must be especially hard to be so far away Tanuki May 2023 #41
Your brother is not responsible for your Dad's hospital bills Farmer-Rick May 2023 #42
Maybe the father doesn't have health insurance? LisaL May 2023 #61
Right, then the estate is charged Farmer-Rick May 2023 #73
Well we don't know what the situation is. LisaL May 2023 #75
So sorry DownriverDem May 2023 #43
You are not alone with this. I, and many here at DU, are holding you in love and sorrow. n/t TygrBright May 2023 #44
Been almost there, done almost that DFW May 2023 #45
I am so sorry. Wishing you peace. onecaliberal May 2023 #46
Hang in there plcdude May 2023 #47
Certainly not a small thing for you. vlyons May 2023 #48
I'm so sorry to hear about this tragic situation. You're doing what's best, highplainsdem May 2023 #49
I will be thinking of you today, but this is not a small nor an easy thing to have to decide. Backseat Driver May 2023 #50
Sorry IbogaProject May 2023 #51
Condolences Jean Genie May 2023 #52
I'm so sorry. area51 May 2023 #53
I hate to think what I would do to my brother.. Permanut May 2023 #54
Allow for the possibility that your brother simply couldn't cope with watching Maru Kitteh May 2023 #55
I am so sorry. pandr32 May 2023 #56
So sorry to hear this sad news. Swede May 2023 #57
I Faux pas May 2023 #58
I'm so sorry for your loss and your acutely stressful situation. yardwork May 2023 #59
i am so sorry for the loss of your father...rest in peace to your dad...and i am sorry dawn5651 May 2023 #60
Holding you in light and comfort Wild blueberry May 2023 #62
That has to be one's toughest 3auld6phart May 2023 #63
I'm so sorry. geardaddy May 2023 #64
Sorry For Your Loss NowISeetheLight May 2023 #65
I am so sorry for your loss LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #66
... Nevilledog May 2023 #67
What a mess. May your Dad cross gently. May you be gentle with yourself. May your brother calm down. Hekate May 2023 #68
So sorry Wicked Blue May 2023 #69
Peace in however you can find it world wide wally May 2023 #70
it IS a frighteningly big thing. And it is awful no matter the process. Hamlette May 2023 #71
So sorry.... spanone May 2023 #72
So very very sorry diva77 May 2023 #74
Peace to you and yours. sheshe2 May 2023 #76
OMG I'm so sorry FirstLight May 2023 #77
This is not a small thing. I am so sorry for your Dad and for you. Stinky The Clown May 2023 #78
Only time heals the heart OhNo-Really May 2023 #79
My mom passed in circumstances DonCoquixote May 2023 #80
I'm so sorry for your ordeal. Try not to blame your brother and become bitter. Liberty Belle May 2023 #81
How heartbreaking for you! summer_in_TX May 2023 #82
Know it's hard, horrible. You've got to trust Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #83
Thank you so much for letting us in to share your journey, Layzeebeaver. calimary May 2023 #84
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