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235. That's what makes me wonder...

Fri May 26, 2023, 02:32 PM

May 2023

Originally I wondered if this was a TikTok prank. "Let's see how people react if we claim this is our bike! Wow! She's reacting! Got a good one! Put it on TikTok!"

Now I wonder if they'd figured out how to get all day access to a bike for free, by intimidating people into giving up bikes they'd just rented.

My analogy is a stranger taking a Hertz car:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217947621

Other posters have suggested that these kids just got used to keeping "their" bikes all day and got angry when somebody didn't let them get their way.

Whatever their intentions, the teens were in the wrong.

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Mother Of Teen In Citi Bike Video Speaks Out: 'No One Bothered To Ask Him What Happened' [View all] BlueLucy May 2023 OP

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They are immigrants, they're scared. They say so BlueLucy May 2023 #2

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His family are immigrants. They don't know the system here and are scared BlueLucy May 2023 #8

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Maybe somebody should explain to him and his friends that LisaL May 2023 #16

That was an electric vehicle which is car jacking IbogaProject May 2023 #126

How could they carjack when it's not a car? live love laugh May 2023 #130

Trying to over take a driver of a motorized vehicle IbogaProject May 2023 #262

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Message auto-removed Name removed May 2023 #301

What grounds did she have for pressing charges? live love laugh May 2023 #127

Yep IbogaProject May 2023 #297

Omg she is the one who has gotten death threara obamanut2012 May 2023 #31

You do know police shoot and kill black men don't you? BlueLucy May 2023 #41

If you think like that it follows that treestar May 2023 #67

Bwaahaa!! You believe that?! Who the fuck has been giving her death threats?! Solomon May 2023 #42

Her lawyer provided a receipt showing she was a legal owner of the bike. LisaL May 2023 #44

He put himself at risk with his anti-social behavior. Ace Rothstein May 2023 #62

Ha ha! You guys are hilarious. What antisocial behavior did he exhibit? Solomon May 2023 #66

then he'd have backed off treestar May 2023 #68

Why didn't she back off. She was aggressive. live love laugh May 2023 #180

You're bringing in claims as to things not recorded on the video. treestar May 2023 #226

Trying to keep a bike that didn't belong to him. Ace Rothstein May 2023 #70

I agree she put the boys at risk. Ms. Toad May 2023 #199

I disagree that her behavior put them in danger. yardwork May 2023 #255

In this day and age, a white woman yelling for help Ms. Toad May 2023 #310

I don't see a lot of people rushing to defend white women. yardwork May 2023 #313

Certainly you are not suggesting that racism doesn't exist, Ms. Toad May 2023 #316

Five black witnesses and video but their word is disregarded live love laugh May 2023 #61

His hands on the bike SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #88

It's not irrelevant when she snatched his phone away as he attempted to scan to rent. live love laugh May 2023 #99

at what point does she "snatch his phone away" treestar May 2023 #103

Watch the video I posted from TikTok live love laugh May 2023 #105

I saw it twice so far treestar May 2023 #108

Once again you deflect. live love laugh May 2023 #111

projection treestar May 2023 #118

I am not easily distracted like many -- especially those on the other "side" -- are. I stick to one live love laugh May 2023 #120

They're not villians, but they WERE in the wrong... brooklynite May 2023 #131

Were they wrong or is there a loophole in the rental system? live love laugh May 2023 #135

They knew what they were doing. Gaming the system to not have to pay. boston bean May 2023 #154

The "system" allows them to do that. It's not illegal. live love laugh May 2023 #155

Did I say it was illegal? boston bean May 2023 #157

"Gaming the system" implies illegality. live love laugh May 2023 #158

My words are what they are. boston bean May 2023 #161

They didn't prevent her from leaving. Period. live love laugh May 2023 #163

Yes, they did with what she had rented to ride. boston bean May 2023 #165

"Yes they did" what? live love laugh May 2023 #175

She was always free to leave if she believed she was in danger. live love laugh May 2023 #176

She wanted to LEAVE WITH A BIKE THAT WAS RIGHTFULLY HERS. boston bean May 2023 #182

Anybody who thinks they are in danger but won't leave if they are free to is crazy. live love laugh May 2023 #183

She had no reason to retreat. She was being bullied and was taking a stand that the bike belonged to boston bean May 2023 #185

When people are in danger they don't stay there. Was she surrounded and in danger or not? live love laugh May 2023 #186

She needed help to get on about her way. boston bean May 2023 #190

Was she surrounded and in danger or not? live love laugh May 2023 #191

I think she had reason to feel somewhat threatened as she was being prevented from leaving with an boston bean May 2023 #194

You dishonestly conflate two things: the bike and her safety ... ESPECIALLY IF she is pregnant. live love laugh May 2023 #196

Would you hand over a Hertz car you had just rented? yardwork May 2023 #228

I wouldn't assault anybody like she did that's for sure. live love laugh May 2023 #229

She didn't assault anybody. yardwork May 2023 #231

Wrong. live love laugh May 2023 #232

Please link the video you've seen because I didn't see any of that. yardwork May 2023 #233

I just googled and rewatched several videos again and again. live love laugh May 2023 #234

I see a woman sitting on a bike. yardwork May 2023 #237

News reader: "he never touches her" live love laugh May 2023 #238

It's not clear what happened with the phone because the video is edited. yardwork May 2023 #246

Where do you see him trying "to intimidate her"? live love laugh May 2023 #249

He had his hands on the bike she was sitting on, that she had rented. yardwork May 2023 #251

How did he intimidate her? live love laugh May 2023 #260

Don't you think you are a little obsessed with this? maybe give it a rest for awhile. I hope you are debm55 May 2023 #309

Assault is NOT placing one's hands on a bike. L.O.L. live love laugh May 2023 #268

That's a stupid incomparable scenario. live love laugh May 2023 #270

Exactly. I have zero sympathy for this little scam artist pinkstarburst May 2023 #206

Where did the teens "put their hands on a pregnant woman"? live love laugh May 2023 #214

She was assigned that bike. She didn't choose it. yardwork May 2023 #230

Misunderstandings do not justify her assault on a teen. live love laugh May 2023 #269

I disagree that she assaulted anybody. yardwork May 2023 #272

"Think" what you want. The video shows otherwise. live love laugh May 2023 #277

That's really stretching it, don't you think? It's like you are answering to fit an agenda you have. debm55 May 2023 #283

It's like you are answering to fit an agenda you have. live love laugh May 2023 #295

So what's your agenda? Women need to back down to youths? Women need to follow what a young man debm55 May 2023 #303

It's fully legitimate to dock and retake the bike. Lucky Luciano May 2023 #243

The loophole in the system Ms. Toad May 2023 #200

That's what makes me wonder... yardwork May 2023 #235

I suspect the intimidation was just standing on them straddling the bikes Ms. Toad May 2023 #240

My understanding is that the bikes are assigned by the app. yardwork May 2023 #245

It is not assigned by the appl Ms. Toad May 2023 #250

Apparently there is also an App, which assigns the bikes in advance. yardwork May 2023 #253

I haven't heard either of the parties involved claim that she was assigned that bike in advance. Ms. Toad May 2023 #311

You may be correct, and this goes back to the atrocious reporting. yardwork May 2023 #312

I'm not justifying their behavior. Ms. Toad May 2023 #317

Their receipts show that they docked it and she rented it 5 minutes later. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #145

Their receipts don't show she snatched his phone live love laugh May 2023 #202

Their receipts don't also show Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #204

Lie: "they surrounded her and stopped her" live love laugh May 2023 #205

They were all right by her Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #208

People in danger don't quibble--especially ones that claim live love laugh May 2023 #211

Could she have handled it better? Sure. Never argued differently. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #215

"One COULD argue" many untrue things. live love laugh May 2023 #218

LOL inthewind21 May 2023 #261

Oh well I guess we could argue that it's okay if I am physically on a bike, in a cab, if you pay live love laugh May 2023 #264

This is absolutely ridiculous. yardwork May 2023 #227

His receipts SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #3

His receipts prove this was a dispute over a bike BlueLucy May 2023 #6

His receipt proves he returned the bike five minutes before she rented it. LisaL May 2023 #9

Based on the time stamps SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #11

Lol none of this happened obamanut2012 May 2023 #30

You are wrong. You called this young man a liar and a thief BlueLucy May 2023 #36

She looked surrounded treestar May 2023 #69

She walked up to THEM and surrounded herself and she was always free to go. live love laugh May 2023 #79

so she just rented that bike and treestar May 2023 #82

SURROUNDED .... it's claimed they surrounded her to threaten or harm. That's a LIE. live love laugh May 2023 #84

they were trying to keep her treestar May 2023 #86

Once again they didn't surround her. She walked up to them surrounding HERSELF. live love laugh May 2023 #87

so she had no right to go to a bike she rented treestar May 2023 #90

You attempt to deflect from the false claim. live love laugh May 2023 #92

what false claim? treestar May 2023 #97

She was not surrounded. She surrounded herself and was always free to unsurround herself. live love laugh May 2023 #101

you're just not answering about treestar May 2023 #113

I'm proving that you are attempting to do anything but address the issue of being surrounded. live love laugh May 2023 #116

... Crepuscular May 2023 #143

Which individual prevented her from leaving and unsurrounding herself? live love laugh May 2023 #144

... Crepuscular May 2023 #259

Lie. live love laugh May 2023 #267

So was she free to take the bike she rented? forthemiddle May 2023 #280

Oh no she couldn't take the bike she rented. She was to walk meekly away and find another bike. Why debm55 May 2023 #284

She was always free to leave even without the bike. Companies resolve disputes all the time. live love laugh May 2023 #294

lol SHE RENTED TAHT BIKE obamanut2012 May 2023 #148

Nope, I am not wrong, so just stop obamanut2012 May 2023 #146

He is a scam artist pinkstarburst May 2023 #207

She is pa not a nurse questionseverything May 2023 #50

"...to maybe get these kids killed." brooklynite May 2023 #132

You must've missed the videos where police kill black people for the most trivial reasons. live love laugh May 2023 #160

I'm Never Allowed RobinA May 2023 #192

You're allowed to do whatever the you want. Most entitled people do anyway. live love laugh May 2023 #193

I bet you would be quick to call for help if you were afraid. yardwork May 2023 #258

LOL inthewind21 May 2023 #273

You're way off base. live love laugh May 2023 #281

I don't get that as her reason for taking off the badge. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #140

I Wear A Lanyard RobinA May 2023 #242

True, and teachers wear breakaway lanyard. debm55 May 2023 #288

How do you know why she put her badge away? yardwork May 2023 #256

No inthewind21 May 2023 #263

Not true. Watch this TikTok. live love laugh May 2023 #14

His receipt shows he docked the bike at 7:19. LisaL May 2023 #19

Did you watch anything other than the women's side of the story? live love laugh May 2023 #22

Do you not see that my post states his receipt proves he returned the bike at 7:19? LisaL May 2023 #26

Omg stop you are wrong obamanut2012 May 2023 #33

No. You are wrong and you called this young man a liar and a thief. BlueLucy May 2023 #46

The disputed bike is not his and is not on his account LisaL May 2023 #49

They are not free to be aggressive assholes and then reverse it and play victim BlueLucy May 2023 #54

And he is not entitled to the bike he returned and isn't paying for. LisaL May 2023 #56

Do you understand that she played victim and could have gotten him killed? BlueLucy May 2023 #59

She was prevented from leaving on a bike she legally rented. LisaL May 2023 #60

She was not physically prevented from leaving! BlueLucy May 2023 #64

All she had to do was leave IF she was indeed in danger and surrounded. live love laugh May 2023 #152

All they had to do was take another bike. They had no right to hers. boston bean May 2023 #167

It's one thing to make this about bikes ... it crosses the line with the surround bullshit. live love laugh May 2023 #170

She's not free to be an aggressive liar either. live love laugh May 2023 #95

They lied stating they paid for that bike at that moment in time. boston bean May 2023 #159

The time on the receipts and the process involve lags, reset times, etc. The male had live love laugh May 2023 #162

Um I am paying for something and some one says I can't leave with what I am paying for. boston bean May 2023 #164

What's ridiculous is people accusing the guy of carjacking, surrounding, gaming/stealing. live love laugh May 2023 #173

OMFG how dare you attack me like this obamanut2012 May 2023 #150

Knew there was something not quite right with the "she's got a receipt" story by the lawyer. Solomon May 2023 #4

You might want to SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #7

Exactly. LisaL May 2023 #10

She was the aggressor. BlueLucy May 2023 #13

It wasn't his to use SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #15

She used RACISM to get what she wanted 100% BlueLucy May 2023 #23

If I was a woman SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #25

I am a woman. BlueLucy May 2023 #29

Once they return the bikes, it's not theirs. LisaL May 2023 #32

So that makes racism OK? BlueLucy May 2023 #39

How in the world renting an available bike LisaL May 2023 #43

She used her white privilege to scream for help BlueLucy May 2023 #52

we can't scream for help if we feel threatened? treestar May 2023 #77

A pregnant woman surrounded by five men who are purposefully pinkstarburst May 2023 #236

I didn't see the same video you did BlueLucy May 2023 #244

I present inthewind21 May 2023 #279

She had reserved that bike - why couldn't he take a different one? SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #40

she'd have to pay for their ride treestar May 2023 #76

if it had been a white guy treestar May 2023 #74

I don't believe she "reserved it" Ms. Toad May 2023 #203

He returned it five minutes before she rented it. LisaL May 2023 #18

True, and aren't they all identical? treestar May 2023 #78

Some are less beaten up than others. Lucky Luciano May 2023 #93

"... 20 minutes before they found the highly coveted but hard-to-find new e-bikes." sl8 May 2023 #166

He wasn't still using it because he didn't want to pay questionseverything May 2023 #21

white person always in the wrong treestar May 2023 #73

No, he had docked the bike. BlackSkimmer May 2023 #156

Look I know and others are very invested in your position. But she knew he had been using the bike Solomon May 2023 #24

There were plenty of other bikes there? LisaL May 2023 #28

He won't give his name so basically you are believing a narrative that questionseverything May 2023 #37

Exactly. LisaL May 2023 #38

I believe it because I saw her trying to bowguard the bike and snatch his phone away. Solomon May 2023 #48

He returned the bike five minutes prior. LisaL May 2023 #55

You keep saying he returned it. The point is, the woman knew full well he hadn't "returned" it. Solomon May 2023 #80

if she had just rented it treestar May 2023 #85

Because she tried to rent it knowing full well he intended to rent it as well. Solomon May 2023 #139

You have no fucking idea how these bikes are rented lol just stop obamanut2012 May 2023 #151

Lol. Yelling makes you right. Solomon May 2023 #181

Let me get this straight inthewind21 May 2023 #285

Kids doing what kids do huh inthewind21 May 2023 #290

His sister said he road bikes for over 4 hours that day with a group of friends questionseverything May 2023 #57

Does that justify her racism? BlueLucy May 2023 #63

I don't think she's being racist questionseverything May 2023 #72

+1 or if they were both white treestar May 2023 #81

About the "plenty of other bikes there" questionseverything May 2023 #47

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2023 #17

Lol she is totally in the right obamanut2012 May 2023 #34

He is a liar. Quibbling is the same as lying. nt LexVegas May 2023 #20

Video for context IronLionZion May 2023 #27

Stop it! She is 100% in the right obamanut2012 May 2023 #35

100% weaponizing whiteness to scream for help IronLionZion May 2023 #45

She legally rented the bike, then is physically prevented from leaving LisaL May 2023 #51

We can respectfully disagree here. IronLionZion May 2023 #58

not everyone knows all you know treestar May 2023 #94

I have to calculate the risk of a person being unjustly shot IronLionZion May 2023 #102

could get someone killed? treestar May 2023 #107

It's not great. Our system has many fatal flaws. IronLionZion May 2023 #114

And inthewind21 May 2023 #291

She was free to leave and not take the bike, but she needed a bike karynnj May 2023 #172

white women cannot ever scream for help? treestar May 2023 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author Goodheart May 2023 #239

Bwaahaa!! The video is disinformation!!! Solomon May 2023 #53

very bad attempt to set that up treestar May 2023 #89

As a friend of mine is fond of saying, "Jesus Christ bananas." Jedi Guy May 2023 #65

+1 good post treestar May 2023 #100

Thanks :) N/T Jedi Guy May 2023 #271

"a central pillar of their worldview shivers alarmingly" Sympthsical May 2023 #124

It'd be a lot more interesting to watch if it weren't so fundamentally unsettling. Jedi Guy May 2023 #274

Bravo inthewind21 May 2023 #292

... ruet May 2023 #306

It was wrong of Comrie to walk up and grab the bike BEFORE scanning the code and steal his phone live love laugh May 2023 #179

You've had this explained to you multiple times in this thread by other people. Jedi Guy May 2023 #275

Likewise. live love laugh May 2023 #278

Good post gulliver May 2023 #189

Yup, 100% agree. Jedi Guy May 2023 #276

Post removed Post removed May 2023 #71

reverse racism does not exist. BlueLucy May 2023 #75

it sure does and you are an example treestar May 2023 #83

True SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #96

Post removed Post removed May 2023 #104

Y'all get started early Sympthsical May 2023 #98

" She was white and female, so I figured social media would be with me." BlueLucy May 2023 #106

On social media? Sympthsical May 2023 #109

You think white people are discriminated against more than blacks on social media? really? BlueLucy May 2023 #112

you are unwilling to even consider the question treestar May 2023 #115

Swap the races around in this situation Sympthsical May 2023 #119

The black women would have never gotten over $100,000 in gofundme. BlueLucy May 2023 #122

Or it could, perhaps, be a learning experience Sympthsical May 2023 #128

A bit more SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #134

That gives me an idea.. look for my new thread. nt BlueLucy May 2023 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh May 2023 #123

they are always fired treestar May 2023 #110

Yes because BlueLucy May 2023 #117

The view from rural Georgia ... dawg May 2023 #121

Thank you! It's so obvious. live love laugh May 2023 #125

The view from NYC... brooklynite May 2023 #129

It was her bike, she rented it obamanut2012 May 2023 #153

Post removed Post removed May 2023 #133

There is no such thing as reverse racism. nt BlueLucy May 2023 #136

I agree SickOfTheOnePct May 2023 #138

Agreed, this poor woman was assumed to be guilty just because of the color of her skin RAB910 May 2023 #142

+1 BannonsLiver May 2023 #168

Lol. You guys kill me. Solomon May 2023 #149

She should have been supported. It was her rental. boston bean May 2023 #169

Agree Goodheart May 2023 #177

Agreed. It is disgusting that her employer pinkstarburst May 2023 #209

Ya know what blows me away? MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #305

That is factually incorrect RAB910 May 2023 #141

What an absolute pant load. BannonsLiver May 2023 #147

If you're white woman XanaDUer2 May 2023 #171

Afraid of what? Walking into a crowd of people and surrounding yourself? live love laugh May 2023 #174

She was not afraid to snatch a cell phone from his hand. BlueLucy May 2023 #184

Because he had forcefully re docked the bike she was on and was attempting to re-rent the bike on boston bean May 2023 #188

Still... it shows she is not fearful BlueLucy May 2023 #197

She may not be fearful, but she has a right to defend her purchase. Lucky Luciano May 2023 #247

She screamed HELP, HELP. MY FETUS.... BlueLucy May 2023 #286

And? She was swarmed by several strange men who grabbed her and her proeprty and shoved teh bike int obamanut2012 May 2023 #304

.... MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #307

And? Nt XanaDUer2 May 2023 #314

I keep saying it but social media is a big part of the problem here Renew Deal May 2023 #178

This incident is proof of one thing Bonx May 2023 #187

Looks like a bunch of me me me on both sides watching the whole video Snooper9 May 2023 #195

This whole thread is exhausting me. LisaM May 2023 #198

She's not a nurse. She aggressively snatched/stole the guy's phone. live love laugh May 2023 #210

She is higher than a nurse, she is a physician's assistant/associate, a step below a full doctor Celerity May 2023 #223

Yep, she is a PA dalton99a May 2023 #252

I apologize for misstating her job title. It's still a tiring job. LisaM May 2023 #266

The PA has the receipts and some are kneejerking to tar and feather her with the whole Karen frame, Celerity May 2023 #296

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2023 #302

So basically both of the individuals in the incident has receipts that support them NotVeryImportant May 2023 #201

No Zeitghost May 2023 #212

No, just the Nurse. Bonx May 2023 #213

She's not a nurse. live love laugh May 2023 #216

She's not a nurse. He's not a victim. nt LexVegas May 2023 #221

Neither is she a victim. live love laugh May 2023 #222

She is higher than a nurse, she is a physician's assistant/associate, a step below a full doctor Celerity May 2023 #254

NEWSONE isn't a real news source Bonx May 2023 #224

You're correct Zeitghost May 2023 #225

It's not a glitch. The male docked the bike. Cuthbert Allgood May 2023 #217

She snatched his phone and scanned to rent while doing so. live love laugh May 2023 #219

That is not what happened at all -- that is a lie obamanut2012 May 2023 #241

+1 Celerity May 2023 #299

It is for those who only believe one side of the story. live love laugh May 2023 #220

There are some really bad takes that will take about 5 seconds to come back and bite us rictofen May 2023 #248

"that's going to be interesting" ruet May 2023 #308

Why does a woman always have to back down or away? It wasn't his bike. She was on her feet for 12 debm55 May 2023 #257

This fucking thread. All these fucking threads. This fucking incident. Jedi Guy May 2023 #282

They have been very enlightening sarisataka May 2023 #287

You're right, this is a fucking dumpster fire right here. ShazzieB May 2023 #289

I feel like this incident is a microcosm of American society. It is us as a nation, writ small. Jedi Guy May 2023 #293

It's rather eye opening inthewind21 May 2023 #298

Yup. The abject hypocrisy of that is just really hard to swallow, honestly. Jedi Guy May 2023 #315

... Celerity May 2023 #300