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In reply to the discussion: Debt ceiling deal details [View all]
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)11. So...
The debt ceiling is off the table during the election.
Spending isn’t cut.
Defense spending behaves the way it normally does.
A program that already has work requirements still has work requirements.
Biden loses a couple gains from the IRA - one of which was probably DOA because Manchin felt betrayed over it already.
And the global economy doesn’t collapse.
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It was 49 before now 54...not much different and it sunsets too...so not permanent.
Demsrule86
May 2023
#57
Yeah, that one I completely don't get...always the poor who must bear the brunt instead of the rich.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2023
#77
Then they must not have been asking for much, because they didn't get very much.
W_HAMILTON
May 2023
#5
I don't think so...it looks decent to me and they can't come back and in five months and demand
Demsrule86
May 2023
#37
Didn't he make it abundantly clear he would not negotiate a debt ceiling increase as well? nt
kelly1mm
May 2023
#22
This is a budget negtiation and in return they raise the debt ceiling. I think it is brilliant as it
Demsrule86
May 2023
#38
Yes, and even more brilliant is the political jiujitsu of it. Biden and his team...
keep_left
May 2023
#45
Exactly right! Both McCarthy and Biden win...and the country wins too. And anything that
Demsrule86
May 2023
#56
Oh! So there is no debt ceiling increase? I was mis-informed then. Calling partial
kelly1mm
May 2023
#29
Not really, the budget was negotiated for two years...blows my mind. Biden was brilliant.
Demsrule86
May 2023
#58
So since this was such a brilliant move I am sure all the House and Senate Democrats
kelly1mm
May 2023
#65
Probably not, a compromise rarely pleases everyone. But Biden still got us out of a tough place and
Demsrule86
May 2023
#66
Also, I think conservatives are going to be foaming at the mouth about this and Democrats will
Demsrule86
May 2023
#39
Also as I just wrote, it is likely McCarthy needs Democratic votes to save his speakership so he
Demsrule86
May 2023
#42
From what I can tell, it is good outcome...and we have a budget! No shutting down the
Demsrule86
May 2023
#54
Exactly right! It was very successful and Biden kept his word...the negotiation was a budget and
Demsrule86
May 2023
#44
No you are wrong...the GOP wanted a decade of spending cuts and huge new work requirements,
Demsrule86
May 2023
#47
Honestly, there is not a great deal to fix...some of this stuff sunsets...the SNAP stuff I think.
Demsrule86
May 2023
#60
Right, so instead of investigating the graft by the defense contractors give them more.
walkingman
May 2023
#49
It would be great to get rid of the Lockheed-Martin F-35 $1,500,000,000,000 military boondoggle. N/T
lapucelle
May 2023
#82
Not much was changed...honestly and we have budget until after the election...they
Demsrule86
May 2023
#62
The people whining about it have always looked for any opportunity to take shots at Biden.
BannonsLiver
May 2023
#71
Which component of the budget deal will make you more busy just trying to survive? N/T
lapucelle
May 2023
#79