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walkingman

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20. All wars must end in negotiation. This one will as well.

Reply to emulatorloo (Reply #13)

Tue May 30, 2023, 11:54 AM

May 2023

Russia is a nuclear power and it is important that to understand they have a role to play in Eurasia.

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We should not be applauding the use of drones on civilians by our side of any side just because [View all] Raven May 2023 OP

DURec leftstreet May 2023 #1

Maybe not, but they gotta get the attention of the Russian people somehow Walleye May 2023 #2

By killing them? BlackSkimmer May 2023 #28

Yes, must abide by the rules of war. Sneederbunk May 2023 #3

on the other hand, sanctioning stopdiggin May 2023 #8

Yeah, we should and I do, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #4

This is it in a nutshell. ShazzieB May 2023 #54

Agree100%. Pinback May 2023 #5

+1. -(nt)- stopdiggin May 2023 #7

How many Ukrainians have died? It is a war. Demsrule86 May 2023 #10

It's a war and bad thing are going to happen. Ray Bruns May 2023 #31

That is sadly true. Demsrule86 May 2023 #46

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Nope, Russia invaded the Ukraine. End of story. emulatorloo May 2023 #13

All wars must end in negotiation. This one will as well. walkingman May 2023 #20

"Ukraine must surrender to Putin so he doesn't blow up the world" emulatorloo May 2023 #27

Any talks of nukes or blowing up the world should never happen nonchalantly. walkingman May 2023 #44

And? Calculating May 2023 #65

I don't agree. Demsrule86 May 2023 #49

Exactly who is Russia a proxy for? NoRethugFriends May 2023 #15

I personally like the Macron approach. Russia must be defeated but not crushed. walkingman May 2023 #22

A proxy war? MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #16

Yep. That was my question. Still waiting for them to answer. NoRethugFriends May 2023 #30

I found Russia's proxy: MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #61

When I saw this it reeked of the Russians staging this Buckeyeblue May 2023 #14

I hope that Ukraine does not end up like Syria. Europe will have to deal with the aftermath walkingman May 2023 #32

What is not in our best long-term interests? Keeping Russia from destroying Ukrtaine?? NoRethugFriends May 2023 #34

It might be in our best interests for a weaken Russia but it is their neighbors walkingman May 2023 #40

So the interests of the Ukrainian people having their country taken over and destroyed is irrelevant? NoRethugFriends May 2023 #50

I see zero reason or evidence to believe Ukraine would end up as Syria did. Torchlight May 2023 #51

Ummm, Ukraine is nothing like Syria, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #63

Moscow is about 300 miles from the Ukranian border. CaptainTruth May 2023 #35

I think you're exactly right. To be honest, I think that there is a sizable Russian faction SWBTATTReg May 2023 #43

I have a very strong hunch that this was a false flag attack wnylib May 2023 #53

I'm very much in the "false flag" camp on this. ShazzieB May 2023 #57

I'm going with FALSE FLAG. Putin wants to get his people motivated Liberal In Texas May 2023 #59

I'm inclined to agree. wnylib May 2023 #62

The Bataan death march, unit 731, Nanking Calculating May 2023 #66

I doubt that the infants, children, pregnant women, elderly men and women, wnylib May 2023 #68

We also arguably SAVED many lives by nuking them to force a surrender Calculating May 2023 #69

+100. nt MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #71

As I said earlier, we could have achieved an end to the war wnylib May 2023 #72

The Atomic bombings were about breaking the will of the Japanese Military and civilian population, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #73

If Japan, in WWII, hadn't committed acts of atrocity, nor attacked the US, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #70

Japan attacked a military target at Pearl Harbor, wnylib May 2023 #74

As I said, it was total war, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #75

Recommended. H2O Man May 2023 #6

Drones rso May 2023 #9

Yes, having their homes bombed by drones sent by Ukraine is sure going to win their hearts and minds BlackSkimmer May 2023 #29

Drones rso May 2023 #47

Good points! ShazzieB May 2023 #60

Well you seem quite comfortable to parrot Putin's narrative on the attack. tritsofme May 2023 #12

Vlad approved. BannonsLiver May 2023 #17

I agree, he needs to scare the hell out of Russians to keep them on his side. Bev54 May 2023 #19

Reminds me of the 1999 apartment bombings. BadgerMom May 2023 #37

Based on previous actions by Russia Bettie May 2023 #18

What makes you think "our" side did this? Marius25 May 2023 #21

This - JustAnotherGen May 2023 #24

It's either a False Flag - or - JustAnotherGen May 2023 #23

did the drones attack residential buildings? maxsolomon May 2023 #25

A ruthless psychopath is destroying Ukraine, in his quest to rule the world. Irish_Dem May 2023 #26

He is not going to invade any NATO country. maxsolomon May 2023 #58

I don't applaud the use of any weapon. Gore1FL May 2023 #33

There is a good analysis at the BBC, including video Warpy May 2023 #52

Gawd, I hate these "We" threads that actually mean "You." Iggo May 2023 #36

I must have missed it. Were the drones targeting civilians? Raven123 May 2023 #38

Re "it is the only way to get the attention of the Russian people" CommonHumanity May 2023 #39

I agree. If a war is fought to promote the moral arc of history, it should be conducted so. mjvpi May 2023 #41

From what we can see, this was not designed to kill anyone. It was low end explosives ashredux May 2023 #42

I don't think those drones came from Ukraine Botany May 2023 #45

I think it's unlikely it was the Ukrainians directly ... Kennah May 2023 #48

This Is WAR! PaulnFortWorth May 2023 #55

+ pwb May 2023 #56

War - what is it good for malaise May 2023 #64

It's good for nothing, MarineCombatEngineer May 2023 #67