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Democratic "No" votes on the Debt Limit agreement (46) [View all]

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Barragán Democratic California NO
Bonamici Democratic Oregon NO
Bowman Democratic New York NO
Bush Democratic Missouri NO
Casar Democratic Texas NO
Castro (TX) Democratic Texas NO
Chu Democratic California NO
Clarke (NY) Democratic New York NO
Connolly Democratic Virginia NO
Crockett Democratic Texas NO
DeLauro Democratic Connecticut NO
DeSaulnier Democratic California NO
Espaillat Democratic New York NO
García (IL) Democratic Illinois NO
Garcia (TX) Democratic Texas NO
Goldman (NY) Democratic New York NO
Gomez Democratic California NO
Grijalva Democratic Arizona NO
Hayes Democratic Connecticut NO
Hoyle (OR) Democratic Oregon NO
Huffman Democratic California NO
Jayapal Democratic Washington NO
Kamlager-Dove Democratic California NO
Khanna Democratic California NO
Larson (CT) Democratic Connecticut NO
Lee (CA) Democratic California NO
Lee (PA) Democratic Pennsylvania NO
McGovern Democratic Massachusetts NO
Meng Democratic New York NO
Moore (WI) Democratic Wisconsin NO
Nadler Democratic New York NO
Ocasio-Cortez Democratic New York NO
Pocan Democratic Wisconsin NO
Porter Democratic California NO
Pressley Democratic Massachusetts NO
Ramirez Democratic Illinois NO
Schakowsky Democratic Illinois NO
Scott (VA) Democratic Virginia NO
Stansbury Democratic New Mexico NO
Tlaib Democratic Michigan NO
Torres (CA) Democratic California NO
Torres (NY) Democratic New York NO
Vargas Democratic California NO
Velázquez Democratic New York NO
Williams (GA) Democratic Georgia NO
Wilson (FL) Democratic Florida NO

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2023243

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Democratic "No" votes on the Debt Limit agreement (46) [View all] brooklynite Jun 2023 OP

Personally claudette Jun 2023 #1

Why, because they are progressives? gab13by13 Jun 2023 #4

No claudette Jun 2023 #13

Unity to win in 2024 IS needed, I agree. But people Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #17

A conscience that makes you want to destroy the economy? iemanja Jun 2023 #42

Some of Democrats voting may have voted their conscience. Most probably voted as cowards. onenote Jun 2023 #43

That's nonsense, actually. yardwork Jun 2023 #58

How is it brave to vote against a bill that you would support if your vote mattered? onenote Jun 2023 #59

I agree bravery doesn't have much to do with it. I Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2023 #65

Manchin and Sinema were there treestar Jun 2023 #24

The point is this is what was possible. Otherwise we would go over the debt ceiling cliff. This is Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #34

This is just politics. I'm sure we have the votes. yardwork Jun 2023 #9

OP said it could open up the agreement though treestar Jun 2023 #25

The agreement can not be opened up period. There isn't time...not a single amendment can be Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #36

The media love their narrative of "Democrats in disarray!!" yardwork Jun 2023 #54

Rep. Jayapal was clear that she would have voted Yes if her vote was necessary for it to pass. femmedem Jun 2023 #12

That's a claudette Jun 2023 #14

That's excellent politics. That's setting us up for more wins. yardwork Jun 2023 #16

Ty.. It's also Strategic for future Cha Jun 2023 #64

what would unity accomplish, exactly? fishwax Jun 2023 #72

Maybe claudette Jun 2023 #73

because the no vote preserves the party's ability to negotiate in the future fishwax Jun 2023 #76

Exactly, if these votes had been needed to pass the bill, Deminpenn Jun 2023 #20

If he can't, that could bring it mathematically closer treestar Jun 2023 #26

Exactly. And our power builds as McCarthy's falls. yardwork Jun 2023 #55

I actually agree with that...and while I was initially annoyed by this, I truly believe every Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #37

But claudette Jun 2023 #75

So she didn't really have a deep principled objection to the legislation. onenote Jun 2023 #44

I think she has a deep, principled commitment to getting the best deal possible for her constituents yardwork Jun 2023 #56

So she thought that voting no would strengthen the bill? onenote Jun 2023 #57

Her no vote prevented the Republicans from making the bill even worse. yardwork Jun 2023 #60

How? The deal was struck. The bill wasn't going to be amended on the floor. onenote Jun 2023 #62

because the threat of democratic no votes forced mccarthy closer to Biden's position fishwax Jun 2023 #78

So its about future negotiations? We'll see how that turns out. onenote Jun 2023 #79

it's about getting practical things done, rather than purely symbolic unity fishwax Jun 2023 #80

Again, we got something done. And the final vote on the bill wouldn't have changed that. onenote Jun 2023 #81

a unanimous dem vote would have destroyed mccarthy as speaker fishwax Jun 2023 #82

Voting claudette Jun 2023 #71

sure it is fishwax Jun 2023 #77

Why wouldn't he? claudette Jun 2023 #83

you really think McCarthy would be happy with a deal that AOC and Bernie Sanders were in favor of? fishwax Jun 2023 #84

I'm really sorry claudette Jun 2023 #85

I don't get where you're finding that logic fishwax Jun 2023 #86

I did give claudette Jun 2023 #87

Ah, virtue signaling who doesn't love that EX500rider Jun 2023 #50

Sorta like NYers who voted for Jill Stein Polybius Jun 2023 #67

👍 claudette Jun 2023 #88

Lawrence O'Donnell explains why the 46 House Democrats who voted No actually strengthen Biden's hand Celerity Jun 2023 #61

Very cool. Thanks for this. Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #2

Most of my favorite Dems - gives us great negotiating power for the Budget - Rock On!! walkingman Jun 2023 #3

They will soon be put the test gab13by13 Jun 2023 #5

A no vote for this legislation makes zero sense. honest.abe Jun 2023 #6

That's not how politics works. yardwork Jun 2023 #15

Still makes no sense. This is different. honest.abe Jun 2023 #18

Why is it differenet? Because it's not Manchin or Simena? Autumn Jun 2023 #19

Because its clearly a yes or no option, yes to avoid default, no to accept a default. honest.abe Jun 2023 #21

All votes are a yes or no option. What's the difference with these people voting no? Autumn Jun 2023 #23

As I said. this is different because there is no other reasonable more liberal option.. honest.abe Jun 2023 #27

There were other options. As for making Biden look like he didn't do enough to Autumn Jun 2023 #29

Those options were considered by President Biden and dismissed. honest.abe Jun 2023 #30

And that part is on him, it was his choice. The Republicans have been saying there had to be cuts Autumn Jun 2023 #32

I trust his judgement. Dont you?? honest.abe Jun 2023 #33

Trust has nothing to do with it. Trust isn't going to help the poor with those cuts to SNAP. Autumn Jun 2023 #35

What inthewind21 Jun 2023 #68

Options like the 14th amendment or minting a trillion dollar coin or discharge petition. honest.abe Jun 2023 #74

We the voters gave Biden a very weak hand when we gave the Republicans a majority. yardwork Jun 2023 #47

We? You got a mouse in your pocket? I don't need to be told to vote, I've never missed an election. Autumn Jun 2023 #52

Well inthewind21 Jun 2023 #69

Good math. Every voter has one vote. Autumn Jun 2023 #70

I don't think it is different either Autumn. There is a tradition in both houses of allowing folks Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #38

And we won't have a default. That's been worked out. yardwork Jun 2023 #46

Perhaps but it just seems like a no brainer to vote for this legislation. honest.abe Jun 2023 #51

Actually, it a very big deal. Doing it this way kept the damage to a minimum. yardwork Jun 2023 #53

But if their vote was needed to pass it, then they'd abandon their constituents? onenote Jun 2023 #45

It's just a good negotiation strategy. yardwork Jun 2023 #48

I'm with you claudette Jun 2023 #89

Think there is something going on in the Dem caucus Darwins_Retriever Jun 2023 #7

Voting "no" on Rules is standard for the opposition Party. brooklynite Jun 2023 #8

Two running for CA's senate seat voted no, Katie Porter and Barbara Lee. Hortensis Jun 2023 #10

obviously these Democrats would have voted yes if their votes were needed for passage. dem4decades Jun 2023 #11

This was actually the perfect scenario for Dems Deminpenn Jun 2023 #22

If it is just symbolic, they aren't improving anything treestar Jun 2023 #28

That is not really true. The reason we don't have the House is the complete fuck up that was Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #40

Complete fuck up in North Carolina in 2022, too. yardwork Jun 2023 #49

definitely could pay more attention treestar Jun 2023 #63

Meh. More "purity" politics nonsense. We won. Wounded Bear Jun 2023 #31

Exactly - no doubt, they are all loyal Dems trying to make this nation better. walkingman Jun 2023 #39

Like I said although I was initially taken aback, I think what you say is true. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #41

yup n/t fishwax Jun 2023 #66