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edhopper

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23. When they say that about unicorns and rainbows

Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:34 PM

Jun 2023

it's usually about what they didn't get and that "if Bernie was President..." as if he would be able to get Manchin or Simena or a GOP Congress to pass something Biden didn't.

I think Biden is much more progressive in his agenda than Obama, but he has a Congress that will only go so far.

As far as Liberal/Progressive, I am not trying to debate the nuances of what they mean, just that Biden is closer on the scale to that than Moderate/Centrist.

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Joe Biden is progressive, but [View all] edhopper Jun 2023 OP

He has always been a liberal, but he has always been practical Walleye Jun 2023 #1

I think a lot of people confuse practical (or pragmatic) with moderate AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #2

His first year was damned progressive. gab13by13 Jun 2023 #25

Agreed (Wow!) AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #27

There is truth to that. At the same time, many people are simply discouraged and frustrated KPN Jun 2023 #32

I don't disagree edhopper Jun 2023 #37

THIS inthewind21 Jun 2023 #58

Hear Hear, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2023 #43

I think he has done things more progressive than I expected him to do. Claustrum Jun 2023 #3

Bannon is no longer safe from the law Abigail233333 Jun 2023 #4

Are you confusing Bannon with Biden edhopper Jun 2023 #7

I think option number 2 UpInArms Jun 2023 #10

I believe we have a return frequent visitor. niyad Jun 2023 #35

Welcome to DU, Abigail233333 UpInArms Jun 2023 #12

Enjoy your stay Hekate Jun 2023 #15

Welcome to DU! Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #19

Welcome to DU, ignore the naysayers. flying_wahini Jun 2023 #22

Except that it is copied word-for-word from a 12/21/21 article at FSogol Jun 2023 #30

In that case, it is a clear violation of both our TOS and copyright law Hekate Jun 2023 #68

It is quite possible that the naysayers know whereof they speak. niyad Jun 2023 #52

What flavour pizza do you like? niyad Jun 2023 #34

Let me guess. intheflow Jun 2023 #70

Didn't you get a link at the library? All I find is reddit. marble falls Jun 2023 #69

I keep trying to explain this to a lot of my (younger) left-wing friends Mad_Machine76 Jun 2023 #5

Apparently they didn't learn anything in high school on how the goverment works. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #18

My 26 year old great nephew is the same. Mickju Jun 2023 #20

Same people who cry edhopper Jun 2023 #21

Biden should fix everything. That's what I would do! FSogol Jun 2023 #31

No shit. 2naSalit Jun 2023 #41

To This Degree, Ma'am, Your Young Friends Have A Point The Magistrate Jun 2023 #45

I have mixed feelings about that Mad_Machine76 Jun 2023 #48

It Is A Gamble, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2023 #50

You should probably have. More knowledgeable 'friends'. Teach them how to. Count votes. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #59

I try to educate when I can Mad_Machine76 Jun 2023 #63

Getting things done/passed is "progressive." Silent Type Jun 2023 #6

So Republicans that get things passed are progressive? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2023 #16

Getting things done is "progressive." Not getting anything, is not progressive, no matter how Silent Type Jun 2023 #24

So you are saying that Obama didn't get anything done AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #29

Read what I wrote. Obama is my favorite Prez of all time. Biden gets things done and is progressive. Silent Type Jun 2023 #46

So you don't think Obama was progressive AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2023 #47

As someone who is just passing by and not involved in this discussion XorXor Jun 2023 #64

It was Obama's opinion edhopper Jun 2023 #38

Seems to be some confusion about usage of the word progressive Autumn Jun 2023 #60

Progressive and Progress are two different things. progressoid Jun 2023 #49

I think of it like this exchange in Lincoln ITAL Jun 2023 #8

I think today's progressive would probably be considered a moderate in the 60's early 70's. walkingman Jun 2023 #9

Might seem so, don't know what notion of "progressive" you're Hortensis Jun 2023 #13

It's a myth the Democratic Party has moved to the Right in the last 50 years. Zero evidence of this. betsuni Jun 2023 #54

I think Clinton's approval of NAFTA was a definite move to the right by Dems walkingman Jun 2023 #55

If things don't change for the better Progressive dog Jun 2023 #11

Should Dems start mitigating expectations aocommunalpunch Jun 2023 #14

He's a liberal, but I don't see him as a progressive. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2023 #17

When they say that about unicorns and rainbows edhopper Jun 2023 #23

You are wrong. Biden saved us from debt ceiling default with a very clever deal. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #61

Sure. That debt deal doesn't make him a progressive. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2023 #67

This is true of many Democrats. LisaM Jun 2023 #26

+ 1. I think a good many (so called) moderates stopdiggin Jun 2023 #36

Exactly right. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #62

This discussion that basically pits progressives v moderates gab13by13 Jun 2023 #28

+++ KPN Jun 2023 #33

You are wrong edhopper Jun 2023 #39

I went back and reread the OP stopdiggin Jun 2023 #40

Thanks edhopper Jun 2023 #42

The reason I choose to be a Democrat and have always been one is walkingman Jun 2023 #44

I agree. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #51

Those few big bills were bigger in real dollars than the New Deal IbogaProject Jun 2023 #53

That is edhopper Jun 2023 #56

I have to admit I was a reluctant Biden supporter IbogaProject Jun 2023 #66

Indeed. He has done amazing things given the situation. honest.abe Jun 2023 #57

I'm not seeing how Biden is for universal healthcare, tbh. area51 Jun 2023 #65