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inthewind21

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Thu Jun 1, 2023, 12:18 PM

Jun 2023

Facebook, their sisters neighbors cousins hairdresser? Dumbfounding just how many here will crow and make fun of the MAGAS for the ignorance they buy into and repeat as fact while at the same time repeating just as much mis-information.

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Bernie is a no on debt ceiling bill [View all] Marius25 May 2023 OP

Bernie wouldn't support something like this unless he is absolutely needed ColinC May 2023 #1

But people like him, Warren, etc. making symbolic votes only hurts our (Democratic) cause while... W_HAMILTON May 2023 #8

The deal is bad but probably the best we'll get ColinC May 2023 #11

No, that's not the case. We need people to remind everyone the importance of... W_HAMILTON May 2023 #26

Democrats just negotiated with terrorists largely because they had no choice ColinC May 2023 #27

No we don't. I do agree about voting Democratic but that is not the way it works. Demsrule86 May 2023 #99

It's exactly how it works. The gop just threatened to destroy our economy ColinC May 2023 #107

And Biden forced the GOP to negotiate a budget that is nothing like the budget the GOP wanted, lapucelle May 2023 #112

Biden played it as best he could ColinC May 2023 #113

What "millions" will be experiencing unnecessary food insecurity? lapucelle May 2023 #119

Excuse me, 900,000. so not quite "millions" ColinC May 2023 #134

The stat is not based Biden's debt ceiling deal. It's based the bill House Republicans were pushing. lapucelle Jun 2023 #140

They are citing the same deal that expands food stamps to veterans ColinC Jun 2023 #158

There is neither a citation nor a link in the Portland Herald story reposted on Yahoo. lapucelle Jun 2023 #165

Actually, a lot of people need to be reminded that this deal is bad MadameButterfly May 2023 #63

It is not a bad deal. And those that voted no were allowed to do so. We didn't need the votes. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #161

it's better than it might have been MadameButterfly Jun 2023 #173

Why is it a bad deal? N/T lapucelle May 2023 #57

it is a good deal in fact...have any considered who will administer the new work requirements? Demsrule86 May 2023 #73

And the CBO scored this an an EXPANSION of SNAP. lapucelle May 2023 #77

Many of the people who rely upon SNAP, and are legally entitled to it, DemocraticPatriot May 2023 #82

Who will be newly required to "re-justify themselves every three months"? lapucelle May 2023 #104

They likely would have no benefits if we breached the debt ceiling. It could take months if not year Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #163

We just cut millions of people off of food stamps ColinC May 2023 #91

How would that be possible? betsuni May 2023 #92

14th amendment ColinC May 2023 #94

How do you know that would work? betsuni May 2023 #95

It might not, but it would set an even more clear line in the sand that terrorism is not okay ColinC May 2023 #103

And this destroy the economy There is no guarantee SCOTUS would side with us and any judge Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #162

No we didn't. We are in charge of who is considered able to work...think about that. Seriously, Demsrule86 May 2023 #96

Not true. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #164

Joe Manchin's pipeline and changes to NEPA MadameButterfly May 2023 #122

We need to hold that WV senate seat, and the changes to NEPA concern streamlining the process. lapucelle May 2023 #126

streamlining the bill under threat by extortionists MadameButterfly Jun 2023 #144

Not all environmentalists are against the changes. lapucelle Jun 2023 #155

We need people to remind us how bad it is? betsuni May 2023 #70

Right...all such reminders would do is discourage voters....I am puzzled why one would do that. Demsrule86 May 2023 #98

Cynicism and give-up-everything's-rigged and corrupt discouragement is the point. betsuni May 2023 #101

we are trying to discourage voters from voting Republican MadameButterfly May 2023 #123

Virtue signaling is all the rage EX500rider Jun 2023 #145

Symbolic votes that do not block something from passing do far less damage than actual blockers Celerity May 2023 #29

I am no fans of theirs either. W_HAMILTON May 2023 #31

These "symbolic" votes are good at bringing in the fundraising dollars, I'm sure. tritsofme May 2023 #37

Calling Sanders a coward says more about you than Sanders Mysterian May 2023 #46

Yea sure. tritsofme May 2023 #48

+Millions!! Amen! Cha May 2023 #85

Hear hear! edisdead May 2023 #108

+1 Celerity May 2023 #62

I believe if they were needed that AOC, Warren and Sanders would vote for this bill...this is Demsrule86 May 2023 #71

There was room for political posturing, so politicians on both sides took it. calguy May 2023 #118

And Bernie has accomplished very little, calguy May 2023 #115

He has inthewind21 Jun 2023 #146

Sanders is not a coward, that is a ridiculous smear Celerity May 2023 #61

Meh, I would disagree. tritsofme May 2023 #75

nope, and like the other poster said, it says more about you than Sanders Celerity May 2023 #79

Making show votes against your party's president to score points with his base tritsofme May 2023 #83

Not a bit. Cha May 2023 #87

+1 betsuni May 2023 #97

You mean like Manchin and Sinema, who actually blocked massive parts of Biden's agenda? Celerity May 2023 #102

If manchin and sinema are the defense that is a weak defense edisdead May 2023 #109

they are just examples of actual harm done to our party and Biden's agenda nt Celerity May 2023 #110

REAL Progressives agree with you Celerity SunImp May 2023 #132

What is a REAL Progressive, exactly? betsuni May 2023 #133

Exactly inthewind21 Jun 2023 #147

This is correct jcgoldie Jun 2023 #136

But it's perfectly fine to vote against gun control if one is a senator from a rural state and betsuni Jun 2023 #141

There are a lot of ways to disagree with Bernie on this vote MadameButterfly May 2023 #125

The success of the ACA over the years has made more people comfortable with government betsuni Jun 2023 #135

yes, and these are the people who care only about money and attention MadameButterfly May 2023 #64

Joe Manchin says he will vote with Republicans to overturn Biden's student-debt relief Celerity May 2023 #68

He can't change the bill...it has to remain intact or there won't be time... Demsrule86 May 2023 #72

you can disagree with Bernie but MadameButterfly May 2023 #30

Then you tell me what it's about? W_HAMILTON May 2023 #33

There are people who disagree MadameButterfly May 2023 #44

Exactly! Thank you. betsuni May 2023 #36

O'Donnell says it is a an act...that although some policies are not liked everyone has to Demsrule86 May 2023 #69

Something like what? An expansion of SNAP eligibility and new exemptions from work requirements lapucelle May 2023 #81

They have the votes easy calguy May 2023 #2

So default is better?? honest.abe May 2023 #3

He understands it. calguy May 2023 #5

or trying to make a point. MadameButterfly May 2023 #47

I can't disagree with you on that. calguy May 2023 #117

Thank You! Cha May 2023 #86

Yeah, it's a big mystery. Cha May 2023 #6

They know that Schumer has the votes, so they can stand on principle AZSkiffyGeek May 2023 #9

And that leads to their principles remaining principles... W_HAMILTON May 2023 #10

Yong Progressive voters MadameButterfly May 2023 #50

WOW inthewind21 Jun 2023 #148

i don't even know what you are talking about MadameButterfly Jun 2023 #172

What principle?? The principle should be yes or no, for or against a default. honest.abe May 2023 #12

I agree, but that's not the reality of politics AZSkiffyGeek May 2023 #16

They should all vote believing their vote is critical to passage of the bill. honest.abe May 2023 #22

Yes, as if there was more he could've done and didn't. betsuni May 2023 #38

Right. I wonder what Bernie would have done in this situation if he were President? honest.abe May 2023 #40

Thank goodness we will never have to find out. tritsofme May 2023 #51

Absolutely, then said what he's said in the past about bipartisan votes: betsuni May 2023 #54

Nothing positive to say about the party and the president and a ban on criticizing the deal? MadameButterfly May 2023 #53

Joe Biden is a hard-core liberal who actually gets things done. lapucelle May 2023 #60

Mahalo.. I don't know Why that's Cha May 2023 #88

Hi Cha! They seem to be very invested in not getting it. Nixie Jun 2023 #170

Aloha, Nixie! Cha Jun 2023 #175

Movement progressive. betsuni Jun 2023 #176

It's a shame this has to be repeated over and over and over and over and over and over on DU. betsuni May 2023 #100

Liberal compared to the whole political spectrum but MadameButterfly May 2023 #121

Biden is to the left of both Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman, and on par with Ilhan Omar, lapucelle May 2023 #124

+1 (I wish people wouldn't assume things just because they're told it's true) betsuni May 2023 #129

To purists, complete catastrophe is better than even minor compromises... BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #15

And if the minor compromise is just smaller catastrophe? GPV May 2023 #35

Do you think all of these votes weren't run through the Whip? Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2023 #168

Larry O'Donnell on "Biden Won".. Cha May 2023 #4

This is the correct take IMO. GoodRaisin May 2023 #41

Oh, ffs. Scrivener7 May 2023 #7

Warren and AOC as well. BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #13

Doesn't take adults to strip food stamps away from the poor, I understand their concerns yaesu May 2023 #17

Apparently, more people will get SNAP after this deal than before... BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #20

Food stamps weren't stripped from the poor. The CBO scored this an an EXPANSION of SNAP. lapucelle May 2023 #76

+1 betsuni May 2023 #78

TY For Explaining the FACTS to Cha May 2023 #84

The CBO score is public record, as are the details of the proposed changes to SNAP. lapucelle May 2023 #90

Where they always get it ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #137

Twitter inthewind21 Jun 2023 #149

Another reason to like Biden tirebiter May 2023 #14

I think he and Warren would be there if needed mvd May 2023 #18

I agree-- they would do the responsible thing if they had to. BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #21

Yes. If you check his won't-vote-for-it statement, he Hortensis May 2023 #39

Ummm, Biden was COUNTING on some No votes from Progressives Tom Rinaldo Jun 2023 #142

Absolutely. Like Biden finally pointing out to the press Hortensis Jun 2023 #143

Yes indeed, Tom Rinaldo Jun 2023 #151

:) Yes, indeed. In crazy times, your posts are dependable pleasures. Hortensis Jun 2023 #152

He knows it's going to pass. Silent Type May 2023 #19

I think... Mike Nelson May 2023 #23

Bernie and Liz, 2015 is calling, when you had a cause to be the outsider Shanti Shanti Shanti May 2023 #24

I believe Warren actually said she would vote yes. Hortensis May 2023 #34

Why not just keep quiet until the House votes? I don't need more drama, lol Shanti Shanti Shanti May 2023 #42

:) Me neither. That's why I mostly skip it. Hortensis May 2023 #58

I sort of figured that it gets him on the TV. nt doc03 May 2023 #25

lol, really? That's a nonsense take. His vote isn't needed or expected. tritsofme May 2023 #28

+1! Cha May 2023 #43

Exactly. betsuni May 2023 #66

No one is surprised by this vote LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #120

Exactly. Brand building is a full-time job for those characters. Nixie Jun 2023 #169

Moscow Mitch is for the deal, they have the votes. sarcasmo May 2023 #32

I don't see what's the problem here. NotVeryImportant May 2023 #45

His planned NO vote and comments imply Biden failed.. honest.abe May 2023 #52

Lincoln said if people on the left and right are both mad, he probably got it about right. MadameButterfly May 2023 #59

Good grief.. nobody is worried about the primaries. honest.abe May 2023 #65

I disagree. NotVeryImportant May 2023 #80

:) That's just...normal, lifelong Bernie. Hortensis May 2023 #93

Heh. Indeed. betsuni May 2023 #116

Thanks MadameButterfly May 2023 #56

That would be a first for him ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #139

It's fine. I'm sure we have the votes. yardwork May 2023 #49

I'll say what I said on the Elizabeth Warren post. Elessar Zappa May 2023 #55

Bernie is talking to his constituents just like Manchin talks to his. BlueLucy May 2023 #67

Very on point. And beyond Vermont, those who Hortensis May 2023 #105

That's the reason why Democrat Maxwell Frost, the first GEN Z representive in Congress, voted YES. lapucelle Jun 2023 #156

Great! betsuni Jun 2023 #159

So who is Peter Welch talking to? onenote May 2023 #127

I was wondering about that, didn't think it was about constituency. betsuni May 2023 #130

This message was self-deleted by its author onenote May 2023 #128

Democrats want the US to default. newdayneeded May 2023 #74

NO DEMS DON'T want us to Default. Cha May 2023 #89

Again, why say no to the bill newdayneeded May 2023 #106

So he would rather default and have millions lose jobs, COOL krawhitham May 2023 #111

Thank You!! Cha May 2023 #114

It's obvious inthewind21 Jun 2023 #150

JM&J. Just goddamn vote. Joinfortmill May 2023 #131

Of course he won't. ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #138

I see the bingo hall emptied out over "teh Bernie" rage. Lol Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2023 #153

DUers aren't "shut-ins" anymore? We managed to get out of the house to the bingo hall? betsuni Jun 2023 #154

... lapucelle Jun 2023 #157

Angry little cupcake mindlessly running in circles, LOL. betsuni Jun 2023 #166

Some angry cupcakes never get over losses. Nixie Jun 2023 #167

"Looks" like it. aocommunalpunch Jun 2023 #174

This was orchestrated. Many were allowed not to vote for it. Over the years Senator Sanders has Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #160

"good conscience" Give me a break. This is about brand building and pretending Nixie Jun 2023 #171

Imagine voting against the ELIMINATION of ALL SNAP work requirements for veterans, the homeless, lapucelle Jun 2023 #177