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Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:23 AM Nov 2012

I Wouldn't Have Believed Things Like This Do Happen...Until I Witnessed It Myself. [View all]

I have an older sister who has lived in Spain ever since meeting and marrying a Spanish national during her time at university there, and she flew into town last week for a visit that will last until after the holidays.

She is staying with my parents, and her son, my nephew, flew down from Syracuse University where he teaches to see his mother and visit with the rest of the family.


When I was over my folks having dinner with everyone on Saturday and catching up on things, I mentioned that I was going to go shopping on Sunday at Costco, and my sister asked if she could tag along, as she had never been to one, and would like to see what they have and see if she get some early holiday shopping done.

I said, sure, the more the merrier, and my nephew said that he wanted to go, too.

Anyway, we did some shopping, my sister and her son bought a bunch of stuff, I spent way more than I intended to (I do that every damn time I go to Costco!) and we proceeded to the checkout.

Now, when my sister and her son converse together, they automatically revert to speaking Catalan, which is the dialect of Valencia, where they live. As we were standing in line, my nephew asked his mother a question, and she answered in Catalan, discussing an item that he had picked out for his father back in Spain.

A woman standing in front of us in line turned briefly to look at us, then turned away. I thought nothing of it.

Until...

My sister asked me if I had any problems when I voted this past week, and I told her no, as I always either vote early or absentee, as I never know if my schedule would allow me to be home for voting day.

My nephew said that he was excited to get to vote for Barack Obama yet again, as he was very popular back in Spain, and this was the first time he did so on American soil. My sister said the same thing, she was so happy that she got to vote for someone that is making a difference in this country.

That made the woman standing in front of us whip her head around and ask, "What are you foreigners doing voting in our elections? Who gives people from Spain the right to vote in this country?"

I started to laugh. She glared at me. I asked my sister if she wanted to tell our new friend what the deal was, or should I?

My sister said to the woman, "Ma'am, no that it's any of your business, but I am an American citizen, and have been so longer than you've been alive. My son is also an American citizen, and as citizens living overseas we vote in every national election held in this country. And we vote Democratic every election, just as we vote the Socialist Party back home in Spain."

If looks were knives, we would have been sliced to ribbons.

It was a good thing her husband wasn't there with us, he was educated at Oxford and taught at Cambridge for a year or two, and speaks English with a notable British accent.

The poor woman would have blown a fuse.

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Beautiful! nt MrScorpio Nov 2012 #1
Excellent! A lot of Americans are so stupid that they think MineralMan Nov 2012 #2
Kathy teaches English as a private tutor in Spain. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #3
How offensive! It's Un-American to learn non-English languages. MineralMan Nov 2012 #7
How wonderful femrap Nov 2012 #21
Wow, that's so cool....archaic Greek?!? Toooo cool! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #51
Pepe wrote his philosophy doctoral thesis in Koine Greek. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #58
Wow!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #62
I once saw Americans referred to as SheilaT Nov 2012 #26
It's unnecessary to learn other languages, or even English, TahitiNut Nov 2012 #81
"...they think no American can speak any other language than poor English." Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #89
My crazy RW cousin thinks that all billboards and vlyons Nov 2012 #103
Gees, wonder how that woman... dballance Nov 2012 #4
She should come to St. Paul, MN. MineralMan Nov 2012 #37
That's kinda cool the place is so diverse and you elected a Hmong immigrant dballance Nov 2012 #110
That woman must have been caught shoplifting at WalMart JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #5
+10 RC Nov 2012 #15
I love this Carolina Nov 2012 #6
Might as well talk about her because she probably thought you were anyway. alfredo Nov 2012 #54
or talk about her in English, as if she isn't standing right there eShirl Nov 2012 #67
it is kinda odd hfojvt Nov 2012 #8
Wait, what? Aristus Nov 2012 #9
Thank you, kind sir. You stated my views on this matter exactly. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #12
US citizenship could expire, in the same way that British citizenship does hfojvt Nov 2012 #43
British citizenship expires? Mariana Nov 2012 #53
see replies 17 amd 18 below hfojvt Nov 2012 #55
Or maybe you have no idea what you're talking about. nt. Mariana Nov 2012 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author hfojvt Nov 2012 #75
Immigration lawyer here The Hitman Nov 2012 #98
I'm kinda thinking the same thing... LanternWaste Nov 2012 #76
'Skin in the game'. Aristus Nov 2012 #64
Thanks Aristus! "Shielded from your vote".. as if! Cha Nov 2012 #65
Your post makes you sound like a jingoist lunatica Nov 2012 #11
Oh, you.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #13
The US of A is the only country I know... mwooldri Nov 2012 #17
I am in the reverse situation...I am a Brit living in the US.. truebrit71 Nov 2012 #18
Skipped all your Civics classes, did you? MineralMan Nov 2012 #34
Apparently, you know little or nothing about US citizenship law. Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #41
I could give half a shit about US citizenship law hfojvt Nov 2012 #48
"I don't need to know anything about the law to have an opinion on it." Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #50
actually, I know what I said hfojvt Nov 2012 #52
...! Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #56
what is a stereotypical liberal? datasuspect Nov 2012 #60
no, but thinking you do and that nobody else does - is a sign hfojvt Nov 2012 #69
You got a right to your opinion nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #72
do I have a right to my own cliches? hfojvt Nov 2012 #74
Read on people who ave lost national allegiance nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #78
Interesting.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2012 #96
actually I have done that a long time ago hfojvt Nov 2012 #108
"I don't need to know anything about the law to have an opinion on it." The Hitman Nov 2012 #101
yeah, welcome to DU hfojvt Nov 2012 #109
Scratches head nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #71
my mum lived in America over 30 years and voted in Brit elections Skittles Nov 2012 #80
deduction fail X 2 lunasun Nov 2012 #95
I find an extra measure of satisfaction in knowing that the woman was shopping in a store beac Nov 2012 #10
Precisely, beac! Wonder if she knew That! COSTCO IS A BLUE STORE~ nm Cha Nov 2012 #66
And, you have the last laugh. MsPithy Nov 2012 #14
Racism is an ugly thing. Being Cherokee when I darken up in the summer I often get, what are you? sarcasmo Nov 2012 #16
Where was there racism in this story? AlexSatan Nov 2012 #20
It heaven05 Nov 2012 #27
If you were on the receiving end of the lalalu Nov 2012 #30
I would be annoyed by their ignorance AlexSatan Nov 2012 #33
The ignorance usually comes from the same source. lalalu Nov 2012 #39
Except this post AlexSatan Nov 2012 #44
That's one rosy way of looking at it. lalalu Nov 2012 #47
You'd be annoyed by their ignorance for the first three dozen times it would happen... JHB Nov 2012 #40
If it were based on race, you are likely right. AlexSatan Nov 2012 #46
One can see in my brother-in-law his Moorish heritage, he could easily pass as an Algerian. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #32
Thanks AlexSatan Nov 2012 #35
come on .... uponit7771 Nov 2012 #94
You get the what are you or where are you from too? lalalu Nov 2012 #29
I've gotten that question, and I'm white as Caspar, closeupready Nov 2012 #57
Great Story...thx femrap Nov 2012 #19
Makes you... DirtyDawg Nov 2012 #22
Im sure when that woman got home MissNostalgia Nov 2012 #23
typical heaven05 Nov 2012 #24
To quote the late, great North Carolinian Republican Senator Jesse Helms, "If coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #25
I've been told that Jesse Helms never actually said that. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #45
Have you ever seen an electrical explosion? geomon666 Nov 2012 #28
That's a great story. Thanks! mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #31
I love it when some fascist pig gets it right in their face. santamargarita Nov 2012 #36
Perfect. Fuck the morons (well, not in the technical manner). HopeHoops Nov 2012 #38
I would have played her.... AlbertCat Nov 2012 #42
Voter Demographics 2012: Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #49
It's vital to remember that as ugly as the woman's words were, burnsei sensei Nov 2012 #59
Nope. Not most white people. Obama got a large white vote & many non-racists voted for Romney. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #83
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #61
We would be a better country if we spoke another language. My Italian cousins southernyankeebelle Nov 2012 #63
I (heart) this story libodem Nov 2012 #68
Been on the receiving end nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #70
Interesting that someone in the line understood Catalan DFW Nov 2012 #77
Maybe she just wants her country back. (sarcasm) nt morningglory Nov 2012 #82
Don't think she understood Catalan, just knew it wasn't English bigbrother05 Nov 2012 #85
I don't think she knew what language it was at all, she only heard my nephew speak about Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #88
Grocery line steriotyping is amazing..... ReRe Nov 2012 #79
My friend, it's no good until you end the conversation with "So Fuck Off !" RagAss Nov 2012 #84
Stuff like this happens all the time. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #86
re:I Wouldn't Have Believed Things Like This Do Happen...Until I Witnessed It Myself. allan01 Nov 2012 #87
In which state does she vote? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #90
The expansive world of the Teabagger. AAO Nov 2012 #91
Something similar happened to a Spanish conversation class. knitter4democracy Nov 2012 #92
I am really getting sick of the tiny box Americans put themselves in and then get mad when no one Heather MC Nov 2012 #93
I love this! LittleGirl Nov 2012 #97
Nice but... The Hitman Nov 2012 #99
The citizens native to Valencia speak Catalan, but it is called Valencian. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #104
Kicky.....love the story. yourout Nov 2012 #100
Ignorance abounds in this country; thank God, intelligence is, mostly, its superior. juajen Nov 2012 #102
Proving once again, how uneducated some Americans are sinkingfeeling Nov 2012 #105
Simply Excellent! Plucketeer Nov 2012 #106
She asked for it! reformist2 Nov 2012 #107
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