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In reply to the discussion: Why hasn't Barack Obama closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay? [View all]treestar
(82,383 posts)35. Apparently more complex than that
President Barack Obama has stated that he intends to close down the detention camp and is planning on bringing detainees to the United States to stand trial by the end of his first term in office. On January 22, 2009, three executive orders were issued by President Obama, although only one of these orders explicitly deals with policy directed at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp, most noticeably, the camp's closure within one year. All three could possibly impact the detention center, as well as how any detainee future or present will be held by the United States. While mandating the closure of the detention facility, the naval base as a whole was not subject to the order and will remain operational indefinitely. This plan was thwarted for the time being on May 20, 2009, when the United States Senate voted to keep the prison at Guantanamo Bay open for the foreseeable future and forbid the transfer of any detainees to facilities in the United States. Senator Daniel Inouye, a Democrat from Hawaii and chairman of the appropriations committee, said he initially had favored keeping Guantanamo open until Obama produced a "coherent plan for closing the prison."[29] As of September 26, 2009, policy is currently being drafted with an aim toward compromise.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_Naval_Base
So there have been three EOs already. It's like the court system, people get frustrated that things can't be done immediately, as in private businesses, upon order of the Executive. But that's the nature of government - certain people have to have their say.
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Why hasn't Barack Obama closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay? [View all]
MinervaX
Jan 2012
OP
You can't sign a bill blocking funds and say you're in favor of closing it
Capitalocracy
Jan 2012
#47
Not with a 90-6 VETO PROOF Vote. Not happening. Time to lay the blame where it should be.
FarLeftFist
Jan 2012
#122
Thanks for the link confirming Congress blocked Pres O from closing Guantanamo.
AtomicKitten
Jan 2012
#90
Hard choices, but I'm gonna pick #1. The issue has been discussed to death.
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2012
#28
Its just so silly. Its like me promising to buy my wife a new car, but then I get laid off....
phleshdef
Jan 2012
#87
Executive Orders are not a method for conferring all power on one branch of the government
treestar
Jan 2012
#25
If he says he wants to close Gitmo and has the power to do it (but hasn't)
Proud Liberal Dem
Jan 2012
#45
He doesn't have the power now, except on a Constitutional basis that he is hard pressed
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#49
He didn't have veto it or even allow the issue to come to a vote before it was too late to have
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#57
Question? Were you this passionate in 2010, when we were getting our asses handed to us by the TP?
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2012
#33
"He has the tools". You haven't yet convinced me, or is this about "symbolism"?
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2012
#81
I don't see how it is Congress' job to dictate prisoner assignments, to determinine who to prosecute
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#52
Simple. Congress has the power of the purse. Exactly as the founding fathers intended.
stevenleser
Jan 2012
#63
Show me the history of appropriations for individual transfers and facility assignments.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#70
LOL, you really think I am going to do that research to make you happy when the constitutional basis
stevenleser
Jan 2012
#73
No, I want you to examine your interpretation in any broad real world application
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#84
For six months it was because Obama wanted to thread the political needle
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#32
The content you and the OP are seeking is available all over the internet.
MilesColtrane
Jan 2012
#59
there's a lot of shit there to be packed up, and he hasn't had much free time........
piratefish08
Jan 2012
#56
No reason why he can't, because he can. His supreme military authority and the discretionary ...
T S Justly
Jan 2012
#60
"Saying he wants to in public is designed to get ill-informed progressives and liberals to support"
SunsetDreams
Jan 2012
#64
DUers answered your question. I'm surprised you didn't know that. Or did you? nt
gateley
Jan 2012
#66
So people like you can find something to post about for the next 11 months to help out Mittens.
Sheepshank
Jan 2012
#75
I give him a lot of shit. But on this, as far as I can tell. He was stabbed in the back by the other
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2012
#88
If that's not a serial killer photo. I don't know what is........ I kid I kid. nt
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2012
#98