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Indpndnt

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71. Incremental, not "sea change" is a start. "Go blue" is a process and it will happen.

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 02:07 PM

Nov 2012

But that's if, and only if, there is a massive GOTV effort here. Demographics mean nothing without votes. However, I do see up and comers like the Castro brothers stirring up a great deal of interest here. If we can stir up the Dems who feel their votes don't matter much here and add that to a strong GOTV movement, there will be hope by 2022-24.

Agree on Arizona, as well, although I hope we can catch up quickly by avoiding the types of difficulties they are currently experiencing with voting, provisional ballots, and the counting of those votes nearly a week post-election. However, I can see the Texas GOP trying that. If they won't stop redistricting us into pretzels, they aren't about to make voting any easier, either, I'm sure.

I like that line: "Texas will turn blue -- just as surely as Nixon's and Reagan's California turned blue..." Gonna have to steal that!

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Texas' New Senator Is Absolutely Terrified About His State Going Blue [View all] cali Nov 2012 OP

We can only hope. Chipper Chat Nov 2012 #1

Three million Texans voted for Paul Sadler. w8liftinglady Nov 2012 #2

He was still 15 points below Cruz. LisaL Nov 2012 #7

True. w8liftinglady Nov 2012 #38

Exactly. That needs to start now because a midterm is coming up in two years. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #115

And, he's such a cool and bright guy. He would have made an infinitely superior senator than Cruz Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #109

He has the misfortune of being a democratic candidate from TX. LisaL Nov 2012 #113

Texas democrats need to get more people registered before 2014 and close the gap by 2016. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #116

One can only hope. n/t malthaussen Nov 2012 #3

Sounds Like A Plan, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2012 #4

the demographics are brutal for the GOP Botany Nov 2012 #5

interesting stats on Texas: Hamlette Nov 2012 #61

I have been saying it for years that the DNC Dustlawyer Nov 2012 #77

Amen. ellisonz Nov 2012 #95

GOP backbreaker it that happens aint_no_life_nowhere Nov 2012 #6

I got the email address from your link. I will be making contact with that group. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #117

His days are numbered even before he takes the oath of office. sadbear Nov 2012 #8

Let's hope that he is a full roasted Teanut ala Allen West. Let him grandstand, then get taken out bluestate10 Nov 2012 #118

Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #9

Uh-oh. sadbear Nov 2012 #13

Well, I really doubt he is worried about TX going blue any time soon. LisaL Nov 2012 #15

Oh, really? Cruz was born in Alberta, Canada. He's not being nominated for POTUS. Ever. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #20

He was eligible to run for senate. LisaL Nov 2012 #27

He qualified for the Senate. He'll never qualify for POTUS. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #28

The rules are not written in stone. LisaL Nov 2012 #31

Yes, that worked well for Ah-nold. And he was the repub rock star. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #44

And it worked so well forJennifer Granholm Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #98

They are pretty close to being written in stone: truebluegreen Nov 2012 #45

Since his mother was a US citizen, he might still be eligible even under the current rules. LisaL Nov 2012 #52

Was he born on US soil? nt awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #83

Nope! Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #92

Born on US soil doesn't matter. truebluegreen Nov 2012 #102

Yeah, I just refreshed my memory... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #108

There might be some debate, but he probably isn't disqualified from being president, since LisaL Nov 2012 #112

Yes, assuming his mother hadn't given up her citizenship. truebluegreen Nov 2012 #136

It has never been addressed regarding the presidency Ter Nov 2012 #121

Not correct. truebluegreen Nov 2012 #137

a Canadian-born Hispanic James48 Nov 2012 #76

They can be changed only by Constitutional Amendment. That takes decades. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #119

Running for the US Senate has a lower requirement standard than the Presidency. Chan790 Nov 2012 #36

I know all that. LisaL Nov 2012 #43

Cruz is an idiot. And it was the idiot faction of the ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2012 #33

Cruz is NOT an idiot. He is immoral, he's spiteful, and he's bigoted, but he's not stupid.Your worst Texas Lawyer Nov 2012 #56

I disagree, but they are not mutually exclusive. He is an idiot. Sadler smushed Cruz in debate Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #110

At Princeton, Cruz was a national champion debater. He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law Texas Lawyer Nov 2012 #111

That's quite a resume, I agree. I am basing my opinion on how unintelligent he was during the Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #139

Time to drop the Elephant as the symbol of the GOP and use this instead. Ganja Ninja Nov 2012 #10

That's good! truebluegreen Nov 2012 #40

Something about this bird's face dragonlady Nov 2012 #63

it's the beady little eyes....n/t BlueCollar Nov 2012 #66

Also the hairline ... err, featherline. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #69

I think it's the beady, souless eyes. Chellee Nov 2012 #72

LOL: Isn't Cruz the guy that thinks Obama & the UN are trying to ban golf? FSogol Nov 2012 #11

And we are working real hard on Arizona too. Real close this year. OffWithTheirHeads Nov 2012 #12

Carmona may in fact win the Senate seat. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #120

Fingers crossed! JaneyVee Nov 2012 #14

Arizona too? Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #16

Any word on the vote count there in Arizona truebluegreen Nov 2012 #39

I think Arizona will turn blue in 2016 and stay that way. The state has a rising Hispanic AND bluestate10 Nov 2012 #122

Another win? Christmas is still here. Wahoo!!! Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #138

Nearly 42% of the votes here went to Obama. Texas WILL go blue in the next decade or so. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #17

Yep! txdemsftw Nov 2012 #19

Cruz is a tea party republican elected to senate by a huge margin. LisaL Nov 2012 #22

Whereabouts are you in Texas? Indpndnt Nov 2012 #30

What does that have to do with a price of tea in china? LisaL Nov 2012 #47

Because, like I said, you are seeing something much different than the other Texans here. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #51

And what is it that you are seeing? LisaL Nov 2012 #53

Exactly what everyone has said throughout this entire thread & in the article. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #57

Perhaps lil Teddy won by the Latino-Latina population voting for him MagickMuffin Nov 2012 #73

I don't see Texas turning blue any time soon either. I see a breakthrough (not a sea change) in 2020 Texas Lawyer Nov 2012 #59

Incremental, not "sea change" is a start. "Go blue" is a process and it will happen. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #71

Texas also has very low voter turnout! lobointexas Nov 2012 #89

Exactly! We need the Obama GOTV method to be put to work here! Indpndnt Nov 2012 #94

Exactly.. txdemsftw Nov 2012 #96

We'll need a massive GOTV effort at first, but once the boulder starts rolling it will pick up speed Texas Lawyer Nov 2012 #99

I agree with you.. txdemsftw Nov 2012 #100

I'm not so sure. lobointexas Nov 2012 #101

There were major GOTV efforts in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, McAllen, Corpus Christi, Austin, etc. Texas Lawyer Nov 2012 #103

I agree that it seems impossible in the short term. lobointexas Nov 2012 #107

a couple more summers like the last two and everyone will be leaving Tx ThomThom Nov 2012 #48

It sure has gotten toasty, hasn't it? And the wildfires were terrifying. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #55

Keep fighting. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #123

I know a hell of a lot of Republicans in TX, txdemsftw Nov 2012 #18

Then quit and concede the election to Paul Sadler Panasonic Nov 2012 #21

I am sure he has an agenda to say what he is saying. LisaL Nov 2012 #25

President of what? sadbear Nov 2012 #46

But his mother was a US citizen. LisaL Nov 2012 #50

You're putting the birthers in a very tight spot there. sadbear Nov 2012 #54

The cynical position smaug Nov 2012 #60

Guess it wasn't Herman or Michael either Panasonic Nov 2012 #74

And it would be your own fault (GOP). n/t calico1 Nov 2012 #23

I would love to have Democrat Texans return to every Congressional seat. Thinkingabout Nov 2012 #24

Cruz is a crazy-assed tea partier and it makes me sick he won. Avalux Nov 2012 #26

It would certainly help if we didn't have so many txdemsftw Nov 2012 #29

Because they are not encouraged due to absence of any real GOTV in TX. LisaL Nov 2012 #34

Agreed.. txdemsftw Nov 2012 #37

Some else posted the Facebook link to this email address above, try getting in touch. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #126

I will.. txdemsftw Nov 2012 #134

Better to start with a grass roots effort. Our national party people are so fucking dense bluestate10 Nov 2012 #125

True, that. ALL of it! Indpndnt Nov 2012 #41

His lips to Dog's ears! nt truebluegreen Nov 2012 #32

Don't worry, Ted, I'm sure they'll change the rules for ya BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #35

I fail to see the problem with this, Mr Senator. 99Forever Nov 2012 #42

from his lips to his god's ears...hopefully. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #49

That would be amazing if it happened. Initech Nov 2012 #58

He clearly doesn't know how this whole '2 party' thing works. laundry_queen Nov 2012 #62

He won a landslide. He's lying as usual Doctor_J Nov 2012 #64

Wasn't Cruz one of the EC Nov 2012 #65

One of theses days, one of the Castro brothers is going to lock horns with this ass Brother Buzz Nov 2012 #67

FYI, Cruz, you're also in a world of hurt if Florida tips solidly blue. Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #68

Florida seems to be in that space now. Three of the last four Presidential elections, it went blue bluestate10 Nov 2012 #127

Their Solution: Tax Cuts! ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #70

That is probably the smartest thing I've ever heard him say. ceile Nov 2012 #75

And this bad because why??? Roland99 Nov 2012 #78

Senator, we're working on it. ffr Nov 2012 #79

Maybe enough old white Texans will die off before the next election to make it come true. nt valerief Nov 2012 #80

i'll be happy the day barbtries Nov 2012 #81

Texas used to be blue... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #82

Yes, when the democratic party still had lots of segregationists in it. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #128

If you haven't noticed... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #130

The only way they can keep that from happening is if...... Swede Atlanta Nov 2012 #84

And let's get Georgia and Arkansas back too! RedCloud Nov 2012 #85

Drama Renew Deal Nov 2012 #86

Can't wait! easttexaslefty Nov 2012 #87

I just have to say once again.. txdemsftw Nov 2012 #88

Ted, welcome to the new America. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #90

Well alright then, we know what priority #1 is now... ck4829 Nov 2012 #91

From your lips to Gods ears n/t outsideworld Nov 2012 #93

LOLOLOLOL!!! PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #97

+1 Incitatus Nov 2012 #104

More Republican skills at reading polling & demographic data. Bucky Nov 2012 #105

Texas need to find democrats that have balls, like Ann Richards, even though she was a woman. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #129

Oh, waaaaah. KatyaR Nov 2012 #106

The problem is that the republican party nominates clowns that have diverse faces, bluestate10 Nov 2012 #114

Texas Hispanics HATE that Cuban carpetbagger. jsr Nov 2012 #124

Sounds good to me. diane in sf Nov 2012 #131

41% of Texas voted Democratic (for the president) Fearless Nov 2012 #132

He says that like it's a bad thing! jmowreader Nov 2012 #133

One party rule is ALWAYS bad for any country. GreenStormCloud Nov 2012 #135