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TheWraith

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108. You qualify it as a "hit piece" because you don't agree with it.

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 06:56 PM

Dec 2011

The fact of the matter is that anyone not taking an "Emperor's new clothes" view can see that OWS is coming apart at the seams.

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The Fracturing of Occupy Wall Street [View all] hack89 Dec 2011 OP

I will have to check OWS later this evening and check out the discussions. mmonk Dec 2011 #1

What about those that pinned so many hopes on OWS? That really need it to succeed? nt hack89 Dec 2011 #3

This article is a waste of ink. Does this author think that OWS is only at Zuccotti Park? sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #14

You qualify it as a "hit piece" because you don't agree with it. TheWraith Dec 2011 #108

I know that is your dream, you've certainly said it often enough sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #113

They will still need for it to succeed because having a society that meets mmonk Dec 2011 #16

Well I'm sure they're just crushed by your articles today. Union Scribe Dec 2011 #20

Failure to face potential failure is an unfortunately all too common human failing hack89 Dec 2011 #22

Of course you do hack89 HangOnKids Dec 2011 #23

So if one is not 100% in agreement with OWS and their tactics they are not good progressives? hack89 Dec 2011 #25

When one makes a concerted effort to spread the word Union Scribe Dec 2011 #28

Two or three articles in two weeks? That's concerted? nt hack89 Dec 2011 #29

Not just talking about you. Union Scribe Dec 2011 #32

And what is your opinion on strident efforts to enforce lockstep orthodoxy on OWS? hack89 Dec 2011 #34

I think OWS tactics are OWS business Union Scribe Dec 2011 #37

But who is OWS if not the people? hack89 Dec 2011 #39

Nope. you represent yourself. eom boppers Dec 2011 #122

So OWS is not representative of all Americans? At least you are honest. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #125

It's a forum for the 99%. boppers Dec 2011 #126

I actively participate in democracy - just not OWS. nt. hack89 Dec 2011 #128

All I am saying is that OWS is pissing away the opportunity of a life time. hack89 Dec 2011 #76

Geeze settle down HangOnKids Dec 2011 #67

I don't respond well to smart ass sarcasm. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #77

Oh Sorry HangOnKids Dec 2011 #117

I don't think you are clear on the concept of "growing a set" hack89 Dec 2011 #123

Sorry hack I didn't get that HangOnKids Dec 2011 #133

Why am I not suprised. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #134

Who needs Zuccotti Park when I've been given Superpowers. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #2

My two cents: Without clear and focused goals diffusion is inevitable. Speck Tater Dec 2011 #4

They have articulated goals ... Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #7

Not many have unfortunately. mmonk Dec 2011 #13

I'm sure for someone very motivated to feret out those goals that's true. Speck Tater Dec 2011 #18

I can (but I have been paying attention) nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #24

It doesn't matter in the slightest if those goals are articulated. randome Dec 2011 #31

I wouldn't take this article too seriously. Seems like this guy sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #17

+100000000000 Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #35

TheNation - who owns that pub? This is clearly an OWS hit piece ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2011 #68

Yes, definitely a hit piece. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #112

And a rather shitty thing pipi_k Dec 2011 #82

They'll be back. CJCRANE Dec 2011 #5

I agree, the Occupiers have only just begun to fight. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #12

I'm not sure what to make of the article. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #6

Facilitators are simply individuals who conduct the orderly movement of the GA Earth_First Dec 2011 #10

So a 3-hour General Assembly = a fractured #OWS? Earth_First Dec 2011 #8

Read closer hack89 Dec 2011 #11

The cops just took down Occupy Baltimore LiberalEsto Dec 2011 #9

this is the most important article IMO that I have read about what this movement needs to do next roseBudd Dec 2011 #15

Someone doesn't like #Occupy Wall Street. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #19

Disappointed is more accurate. I see their efforts to date being pissed away hack89 Dec 2011 #21

Go to your local facilitation committee and get your questions, observations, and suggestions into Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #33

I want them to enter the political process hack89 Dec 2011 #38

That's a hot topic, and assumes that the existing, corrupt system is fixable. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #46

How do you fix politics by avoiding politics? hack89 Dec 2011 #49

You really need to get to a large #Occupation Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #50

And still at the end of the day hack89 Dec 2011 #51

If you somehow missed everything that happened yesterday, I cannot help you further. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #53

I am very active in local politics - I work very hard to get Democrats elected to office hack89 Dec 2011 #55

Great! Why not then ask your local democrats to do something about all of the Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #57

Occupy Providence is supported by local democrats hack89 Dec 2011 #59

"Tolerated"? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #60

We want our politicians to solve some real problems first hack89 Dec 2011 #61

Thank you for clarifying the priorities. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #62

Take off the hair shirt. OWS is not the only game in town hack89 Dec 2011 #74

What exactly is elitist about the 99% working together for each others' benefit and community? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #95

You are using OWS as a platform to look down on those who don't share your passion. hack89 Dec 2011 #98

Judge me then by any community-building actions I undertake Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #101

Why can't I judge you by your insulting and patronizing comments to me? nt hack89 Dec 2011 #103

Why can't you answer me regarding your seemingly being okay with PDems nearly killing their citizens Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #104

That's exactly what I mean - I support violence against innocent protestors hack89 Dec 2011 #105

Okay, finally a note against what Democratic mayors are doing to their citizens. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #106

"Or are you subtly approving of what has occurred?" Rember that little comment hack89 Dec 2011 #107

I am not demanding anything of you except Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #109

You started it by accusing me of condoning violence against innocent protestors hack89 Dec 2011 #110

I did not accuse you of it, I asked after you did not say a single word Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #111

Ok - got it. You are more progressive than me. Happy now? nt hack89 Dec 2011 #114

??What?? Exactly where are we failing to communicate? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #116

Top three priorities for OWS. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #63

So you want the laws changed, huh? randome Dec 2011 #69

You are aware of course, since every media outlet reported on this nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #81

But we are making decisions and working on legislation right now - we can't wait for OWS hack89 Dec 2011 #71

Read post 81, not in the mood to retype. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #84

They are still irrelevant to ongoing crisis in RI hack89 Dec 2011 #88

But they are participating nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #91

Tolerating the people?? And then people wonder why the political class is so unpopular. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #70

Judging by the rapidly dwindling the numbers, OWS is not the people in RI. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #73

If you are only counting physical occupiers nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #85

How about we discuss their influence on critical issues in RI - looks like I'm still right. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #86

How about one of them was organized nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #89

I guess we will see hack89 Dec 2011 #90

I guess jobs is not well defined nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #92

I must second what Fire Walk is saying here. Rather than airing your objections coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #41

Occupy the Armchair! Change has come Dec 2011 #66

No - I will Occupy my local party election committee. We have an election to prepare for. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #72

Looks more like an assault on OWS. Hutzpa Dec 2011 #26

There is an excellent program airing on Current TV "The 99 Percent: Vanguard" AntiFascist Dec 2011 #27

The point of the article is that the neo-anarchist method of organization has broken down FarCenter Dec 2011 #30

Again? So when are you going to stop posting about it SomethingFishy Dec 2011 #36

They are resistant to my idea of entering the political process. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #40

'Resistant' is putting it mildly. randome Dec 2011 #42

Why don't YOU enter the political process? Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #43

I did that a long time ago. hack89 Dec 2011 #47

They are already quite political nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #64

I want to see how OWS plans to transition their goals and ideas to actual political results hack89 Dec 2011 #78

Local tension nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #79

Oh NOES111!!!1 Whatever will we do? Save us hack89! Edweird Dec 2011 #44

Get OWS involved in the political process. Lets get some good legislation passed. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #48

You have it backwards. What you are seeing is the anger from the 'hope and change' bait and switch. Edweird Dec 2011 #52

And from that you believe that Americans want to scrap our existing political system? hack89 Dec 2011 #58

It has to be both Harmony Blue Dec 2011 #65

If that is what they want, they have a funny way of showing their support. hack89 Dec 2011 #75

how quaint marions ghost Dec 2011 #54

How American. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #56

the America that used to be... marions ghost Dec 2011 #96

Not all of us give up so easily. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #97

neither does OWS and the people who are out there fascisthunter Dec 2011 #99

I was answering a poster who thinks that the political process is "so 2000" hack89 Dec 2011 #102

It's not OWS who needs to get their 'shit together'. They are not responsible for the sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #115

They have to get their shit together before they piss away the opportunity of a lifetime hack89 Dec 2011 #121

They have and are growing every day. Are you serious? Less than three months ago they sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #132

I'll stick with the squid... Agony Dec 2011 #45

OWS is used to hearing negative bs like this, they will laugh.This is no small group.THIS IS THE 99% judesedit Dec 2011 #80

"The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated." LanternWaste Dec 2011 #83

The reports of their success have been greatly exaggerated. hack89 Dec 2011 #87

We see what our biases direct us to see. LanternWaste Dec 2011 #93

Does that apply equally to you? nt hack89 Dec 2011 #94

indisputable fascisthunter Dec 2011 #100

No they haven't. Hissyspit Dec 2011 #119

If Occupy were to fail, all hope for a better future would be gone forever. Zorra Dec 2011 #118

Then they need to convince the public that they can actually bring about change hack89 Dec 2011 #124

Obvious concern-bots are obvious. nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #120

Now that NDAA will not be vetoed.... Jello Biafra Dec 2011 #127

It will be back in the Spring, bigger and meaner! dmosh42 Dec 2011 #129

Hard to imagine it being able to complete with a Presidential election. hack89 Dec 2011 #130

All the more reason for them to be active! dmosh42 Dec 2011 #131