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ljm2002

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50. Compromise is fine...

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 03:52 PM

Nov 2012

...if it is done between two rational entities.

With the rabid right, which is now 90% (at least) of the Republican lawmakers in Congress, it is not possible to compromise, only to capitulate. That is because THEY refuse to compromise at all.

No thanks. It is far past time to give these people the proverbial / metaphorical knuckle sandwich. They have earned it and it is the ONLY way to even get their attention.

Trying to compromise with the wackos is not a winning strategy. And yes I feel perfectly comfortable referring to the Republicans in Congress as, by and large, wackos. Until they start denouncing their rabid fringe elements, and start actually considering some compromise from their own rigid positions, they will continue to be wackos in my book.

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Compromise...I know it is verboten round these parts to speak of thee [View all] nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 OP

WTF are you talking about: 'women's rights' are part of it? leftstreet Nov 2012 #1

The vote repudiated their ideas on women nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #4

Lowest voter turnout since 2004, maybe even lower leftstreet Nov 2012 #6

You work for CNN ? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #19

Are you familiar with Google? n/t leftstreet Nov 2012 #23

Yep, I am also familiar with the ignore list nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #24

Wait !! Before you do.... leftstreet Nov 2012 #26

This is a real question? You cant figure this one out for yourself? stevenleser Nov 2012 #43

+100 HiPointDem Nov 2012 #87

Your claim is unprovable. zonkers Nov 2012 #29

Not in MN it wasn't. MNBrewer Nov 2012 #51

This ^ geardaddy Nov 2012 #98

Oh, so the election was a GIVEN! Then Romney must be colossally STUPID for being SHOCKED! Bwahahaha! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #91

I don't listen to his show. Has he apologized for calling Sandra Fluke a slut? forestpath Nov 2012 #7

It s the tone he took nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #12

He "got it" in his usual insulting way... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #53

Ok... nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #54

Rush got nothing. yardwork Nov 2012 #42

For twenty hours or so nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #44

I took that as meaning women's rights are one of the three things NOT open for compromise Matariki Nov 2012 #5

yeah, I get that now leftstreet Nov 2012 #9

Yup...the things not on the table nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13

Thank you for saying this SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2012 #2

"Sore winners are just as annoying as sore losers". I like that. randome Nov 2012 #3

Where are the sore winners? Republicans still think they are in charge RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #49

I believe there is a difference between compromise and capitulation. Cleita Nov 2012 #8

Why I said, loons have taken over the asylum. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #17

when I hear pro-compromisers talk on DU quinnox Nov 2012 #10

Re-read it nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #15

I meant in general, quinnox Nov 2012 #22

I know, that is why we are so out of practice nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #25

C word, 4 letter word? what the hell? Congress. Compromise is not 4 letters. Conservative? Whisp Nov 2012 #11

and they brazenly lie and manipulate to loot, kill and ruin people's lives RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #45

exactly! o my gawd. Whisp Nov 2012 #61

Well said, but Still Sensible Nov 2012 #14

Agreed, that be a violation of that mandate nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #16

K&R - good post. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #18

What exactly are the things that republicans believe in do you agree with? Zorra Nov 2012 #20

That we are Americans and we both care for the country nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #27

The only dark bridge I see is the charred bridge of republicans ideas Zorra Nov 2012 #33

You are free to do that nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #38

WTF! "I truly disagree in their solutions, but they are not pushing them out of hate of country." RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #47

That is where we fully disagree nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #48

You think they are attempting to move the country forward? RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #55

In their mind they are nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #58

I would believe they cared, if they had ANY ideas to move us forward RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #62

That s your problem nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #64

What proof do you have that Limbaugh loves the country? (gag) RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #69

What proof do you have he does not? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #70

How about this? Zoeisright Nov 2012 #79

He is a liar nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #86

Go back and read Al Franken's "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #82

Read the book nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #88

I'm pretty sure that Rush is hardly human. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #92

Don't worry, they think that about you. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #96

They do NOT "care for this country". Zoeisright Nov 2012 #74

Sorry if I will not join you in the creation of the other nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #76

Listen, lady, you do NOT know me. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #83

Ah, don't put her on ignore. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #85

+1 zappaman Nov 2012 #113

Snork!! GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #114

Goody. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #90

caving in and selling out, betraying your electorate, that is not compromise nt msongs Nov 2012 #21

Re-read slowly that post. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #28

You've got it completely wrong. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #30

So you are blaming me for the actions of the political class? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #32

I'm blaming you for furthering an error perpetuated by others, specifically the ruling class. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #34

Perpetuating what? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #36

That compromise consists entirely of one side compromising its principles in deference Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #66

Damn man I am talking history nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #68

That's exactly what it did. How many times do you have to be beaten over the head and robbed by Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #110

I am willing to bet I am way to the left of you nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #111

Happy to take that bet, what will you wager? n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #112

Add a fourth JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #35

Thank you nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #37

Given the Republican House, Obama will spend at least the next two years compromising. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #39

Exactly, this is not hard. stevenleser Nov 2012 #46

Compromise is required. The issue is FAIR compromise. What does that look like? BlueStreak Nov 2012 #40

Yup, wish I could recommend this post nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #41

Compromise is fine... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #50

I don't think 90% of the Repiblicans are wackos. They were just willing to act that way BlueStreak Nov 2012 #52

Yup. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #57

If our lawmakers are willing to ACT like wackos... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #77

They are beholden to a particular agenda. Acting like a wacko is a means to the end. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #80

"Acting like a wacko is a means to the end" ljm2002 Nov 2012 #93

What I object to, is the creation of the other nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #100

So you think every republican is less than human nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #56

Then they need to take back their party and come up with some real ideas RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #60

That is your prerogative nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #67

Completely wrong, as usual. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #84

Of course nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #89

+1 Naivete is more of a problem in that it leads to over-compromising. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #95

Since I said in the OP that there are certain things nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #97

Talk about putting words in someone's mouth... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #78

Stamping feet is not what the vote was about nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #81

Look, we all get to decide what we think the vote was about... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #94

Well, that s somewhat of an improvement I s'pose. nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #99

:-) n/t ljm2002 Nov 2012 #104

Can you please cite an example of "sore winners"?? ljm2002 Nov 2012 #59

Examples are rife nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #63

Look where compromising brought us in the 19th century. Generic Other Nov 2012 #73

Actually it was lack of compromise nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #75

I compromised years of raises Generic Other Nov 2012 #102

I am not saying to look forwards nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #105

We sat down at the table with them before and they took ALL the cookies RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #103

Cartoons are lovely nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #107

Well said. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #115

Not deaf ears zappaman Nov 2012 #116

There is that. And something that has been noted many times. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #117

I think you've made the Iggy list!!! zappaman Nov 2012 #119

You are off shore nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #121

.... GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #122

Do as you wish nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #123

Clever. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #124

When people cannot disagree in an agreable manner, it is time to nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #125

I'm willing to compromise with the right, if they are truly conservative & protect the Constitution RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #65

If their version of compromise means we bend over and give them whatever THEY want, screw it. Bake Nov 2012 #71

I am thinking reasonable nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #72

compromising with sociopaths and racists is called capitulation argiel1234 Nov 2012 #101

Yup, because we all know this is how working nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #106

The problem is argiel1234 Nov 2012 #108

Go and tell this to the political class nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #109

I agree, if all you have is a switch that goes down Johonny Nov 2012 #118

Agreed why I wanted to have this discussion nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #120

(R)epukes are "evil incarnate", they love torture, civilian killing, outing CIA agents, WMD lies... just1voice Nov 2012 #126

I am sorry, but I cannot ascribe what a few individuals nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #127