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AmBlue

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14. The law should be followed

Fri Jun 16, 2023, 11:51 AM

Jun 2023

...without fear or favor. I actually think Presidents should be held to an even higher standard by virtue of the power and immense responsibility entrusted to them by the people of this country. Betrayal of that trust is a crime of the highest order, and the punishment should fit the crime.

If not, and the Office of President becomes a "get out of jail free card," then the line of criminals jockeying for the position will be very, very long and our nation will be the pariah of the world.

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Should the death penalty be considered if nuclear secrets were sold to an enemy nation? [View all] kentuck Jun 2023 OP

Ha! America should count itself lucky if he gets even an ankle bracelet Walleye Jun 2023 #1

I agree with you. OLDMDDEM Jun 2023 #2

What does the relevant statute say nowadays? RockRaven Jun 2023 #3

18 USC Section 794 scipan Jun 2023 #23

Smith's charges don't include this crime ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #127

Maybe Kushner will flip on him, Beachnutt Jun 2023 #4

This is what I think too. Demobrat Jun 2023 #31

I believe this is why we have heard MontanaMama Jun 2023 #78

Last I heard they were building a house in Fla near people that didn't want them there SouthernDem4ever Jun 2023 #88

Yes, it was Florida. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #94

And, look what happened to Julius Rosenberg and Ethel Rosenberg. Frankly, I think Trump has RKP5637 Jun 2023 #5

But the Rosenberg's was when DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #55

That's Right The Entirety Of The GOP Are Fascists MayReasonRule Jun 2023 #87

Absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2023 #108

Exactly. Goddessartist Jun 2023 #90

My father was a democratic politician for years and worked all the time with republicans way back. RKP5637 Jun 2023 #107

Maybe he has--And I even believe it's entirely likely that he has ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #129

It's a could, should, would question. CincyDem Jun 2023 #6

Good Synopsis. I Agree on All Counts. The Roux Comes First Jun 2023 #32

I am adamantly opposed to the death penalty, but for him I'd make an exception. Nevilledog Jun 2023 #144

The Orange spy violated the oath of office from the moment he took it gohuskies Jun 2023 #7

Don't know if we can say there won't be edisdead Jun 2023 #11

Agree, for J6 alone he deserves the firing squad, radius777 Jun 2023 #113

What would George Washington do, Original Constructionists? bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #8

I don't believe in the death penalty, so No. edisdead Jun 2023 #9

I agree gratuitous Jun 2023 #12

TFG will never spend one day in prison, as much as I'd personally like to see it. COL Mustard Jun 2023 #93

I've given this some thought, too, Grammy23 Jun 2023 #98

First of all, he would not follow any rules made for him... kentuck Jun 2023 #103

Not at one of his houses, please jmowreader Jun 2023 #104

I think being confined to his house, with no freedom to travel COL Mustard Jun 2023 #111

That's what I meant. Grammy23 Jun 2023 #115

I think the best way to control his "verbal diarrhea" while not running into 1A rights issues- Prairie_Seagull Jun 2023 #132

Repeal the life-long Secret Service protection? kentuck Jun 2023 #138

It would be quite a simple matter to build a special one-man federal prison Mysterian Jun 2023 #122

Same GPV Jun 2023 #15

Agree, no death penalty. Also agree on life in prison with txwhitedove Jun 2023 #56

Same here. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #100

Good on you for being principled TheProle Jun 2023 #109

I oppose the death penalty Ohio Joe Jun 2023 #10

I don't believe in the death penalty. I hope he lives an unusually long life in solitary confinement Runningdawg Jun 2023 #13

Two recent deaths of inmates DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #57

Oh, didn't know that's how McVeigh responded. Good. Bastard! electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #66

There are many DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #75

There Are Murderous RW'rs whether by guns (a relatively small amount), or by policy in overturning.. electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #82

yeah, let's not put him out of his misery too fast MadameButterfly Jun 2023 #72

He's got 5 years left, if that. It's the cult he's leaving behind, the cult that has been growing Runningdawg Jun 2023 #142

The law should be followed AmBlue Jun 2023 #14

Spot on! triron Jun 2023 #105

I'd sooner see him live out his life. Yonnie3 Jun 2023 #16

He could have read only internet cynical_idealist Jun 2023 #30

COLORADO SUPER MAX HAS CELLS WAITING...... NC DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #60

I like tfg's idea of a public firing squad for just that purpose. Omnipresent Jun 2023 #17

Robert Hanssen got Life, but only after Ilsa Jun 2023 #18

Didn't he just die this last week? DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #63

Yeah, after decades... Ilsa Jun 2023 #99

Absolutely NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #19

1- No, sarisataka Jun 2023 #20

Definitely should be an option JHB Jun 2023 #21

This would be very serious and most deservedly a harsh Emile Jun 2023 #22

I've brought up the Rosenbergs in the past, but aside from ... TreasonousBastard Jun 2023 #24

Yes there was hysteria but that was fueled by the fact that there were people stealing grantcart Jun 2023 #85

It was deemed appropriate punishment for Julius and Ethel Rosenberg EYESORE 9001 Jun 2023 #25

I'd be a hypocrite if I said yes, because I don't believe in the death penalty, but LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #26

If there is proof he sold nuclear secrets, he'll deserve it. Although 400 years is OK. Silent Type Jun 2023 #27

I oppose the death penalty in ALL cases and for any and all crimes at all levels. PERIOD! Stinky The Clown Jun 2023 #28

Same here. Elessar Zappa Jun 2023 #33

Same. I oppose the death penalty, even for HIM. groundloop Jun 2023 #51

I am against the death penalty DENVERPOPS Jun 2023 #65

Thank you -- I agree! markpkessinger Jun 2023 #77

I could not agree more. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #102

I'm a peacenik, but hanging is too good for Traitor Tot. OMGWTF Jun 2023 #29

For years have said though against death penalty gibraltar72 Jun 2023 #34

Better than a Death Penalty Postal Grunt Jun 2023 #35

Perfect 👍 Duppers Jun 2023 #42

Taking away his money is a temporary solution IzzaNuDay Jun 2023 #61

Yes republianmushroom Jun 2023 #36

Even for him Bettie Jun 2023 #37

I think the only way the the orange traitor will ever stay quiet pandr32 Jun 2023 #38

Forbid journalists visits in the prison. Duppers Jun 2023 #45

Yes, and also limit his contact to other prisoners. pandr32 Jun 2023 #110

I'm okay with it after he spends a little time in prison. LiberalFighter Jun 2023 #39

No, the death penalty is a barbarous relic Celerity Jun 2023 #40

Because the law sees the charges differently, a death penalty can't be considered. ancianita Jun 2023 #41

The death penalty is wrong. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2023 #43

just-justice Jean Genie Jun 2023 #44

Absolutely! Bird Lady Jun 2023 #46

He should be drawn and quartered. Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #47

If you're asking Moi, Mme. Defarge Jun 2023 #48

My view of the perfect outcome... boyedav1969 Jun 2023 #49

Yes. roamer65 Jun 2023 #50

It's a good point but I'm not Upthevibe Jun 2023 #52

! 3825-87867 Jun 2023 #53

A strong argument. kentuck Jun 2023 #83

No chance KentuckyWoman Jun 2023 #54

Yes, but the moderating interests in American (Democratic) politics would never allow it Mr. Ected Jun 2023 #58

Always been against the death penalty but KS Toronado Jun 2023 #59

THIS ⬆⬆. Duppers Jun 2023 #112

You only have to hang mean bastards, ECL213 Jun 2023 #62

Execution is the easy way out...ESPECIALLY for him. yonder Jun 2023 #64

I don't support the death penalty but certain crimes try my principles! electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #67

No, I am not in favor of the death penalty. For anything. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2023 #68

Whatever punishment would be applied to you or me Greybnk48 Jun 2023 #69

Think of the psychological benefit. kentuck Jun 2023 #70

If that is what we do to traitors, them all I ask is that the 🍊 blob gets treated the same FlyingPiggy Jun 2023 #71

Anyone that should dare to be the President of the United States... kentuck Jun 2023 #74

Agreed!! Maybe a harsher sentence for him considering the magnitude of his actions FlyingPiggy Jun 2023 #79

I'm against the death penalty, BUT I'm 100% sure that the next Repube president will pardon his LaMouffette Jun 2023 #73

But if there's no one to pardon... 3825-87867 Jun 2023 #84

He always wanted law and order, punishing criminals, police brutality, tough sentences IronLionZion Jun 2023 #76

Execution would be fitting . . . Richard D Jun 2023 #80

It certainly was for the Rosenbergs. But I oppose it on principle. n/t TygrBright Jun 2023 #81

No. But solitary confinement might be a good alternative. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #86

Without a cell phone in solitary he would die faster than being on dearth row SouthernDem4ever Jun 2023 #89

I believe you're right about that. LOL! 🤣 Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #95

Welcome to DU SouthernDem4ever Jun 2023 #96

Thanks! Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #97

Firing Squad. MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #91

No, I am against the death penalty in all cases. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #92

20 year prison sentence BlueIdaho Jun 2023 #101

Thinking about the best way to handle TFG, is to bluestarone Jun 2023 #106

Show me evidence and I'll discuss it. brooklynite Jun 2023 #114

Otherwise...? kentuck Jun 2023 #116

You can discuss whatever you want. brooklynite Jun 2023 #118

That is your opinion. kentuck Jun 2023 #131

man that's a tough question......... Takket Jun 2023 #117

Personally I don't make exceptions mvd Jun 2023 #119

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #120

I'm pretty much against the death penalty Wednesdays Jun 2023 #121

The penalty for victims of a national security breach is death so why not? live love laugh Jun 2023 #123

In this point in history The Grand Illuminist Jun 2023 #124

Those are very provocative words. kentuck Jun 2023 #133

Not about provocation. The Grand Illuminist Jun 2023 #141

no moonshinegnomie Jun 2023 #125

What did other traitors get? That's exactly what orange guy should get too. FlyingPiggy Jun 2023 #126

No. H2O Man Jun 2023 #128

How are you, H2O Man? kentuck Jun 2023 #135

The documents contain information enemies could use to destroy the USA. Kid Berwyn Jun 2023 #130

And make him a martyr to his cult? Yavin4 Jun 2023 #134

He may be a martyr already? kentuck Jun 2023 #136

If he gave nuclear secrets away, yes. GoodRaisin Jun 2023 #137

Of course not. kentuck Jun 2023 #139

Prison is all that remains that is remotely reasonable, GoodRaisin Jun 2023 #140

No, the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment. lees1975 Jun 2023 #143

Everyone has a line that no one will cross... The Grand Illuminist Jun 2023 #145

Hell yes! Emile Jun 2023 #146