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JHB

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17. Yes, once we've done all the heavy lifting, they will go back to what they were doing...
Fri Jun 16, 2023, 09:13 PM
Jun 2023

...before Trump: pushing conservative pet projects and using their brushed-back base of Ahabs to do it, because they'll point out that "you may not like us, but do you really want those Democrat socialist radicals -- who hate this country and everything you love -- running things?"

These are people who pretend Trump was some sort of black swan event that suddenly overtook the Republicans, completely leaving out the decades-long project to addict Republican voters to anger and outrage so that they'll stampede on command. Every NeverTrumper with media access was part of this effort -- political consultants, radio show hosts, columnists, etc. -- to create a voter base that was the perfect feeding ground for someone like Trump.

When they opine about what happened, they usually leave out the bomb-throwers like Rush, Newt, FOX, and their imitators. They get very pissy if you bring up what they did in their past careers, such as




or Charlie Sykes wondering how someone like Sen. Ron Johnson could be elected when Sykes, as Wisconsin's state-level Rush Limbaugh, was instrumental in getting a host of nutbars, including Johnson, elected.

The entire concept of Never-Trump, from its very beginning before the 2016 election, was about positioning themselves as the go-to people and Republican kingmakers once Trump was out of the picture. The ones who needed to retain their conservative audiences, like the National Review or Glenn Beck, knuckled under and went back into the fold. Those that had friends in the mainstream media and could ensconce themselves in places like MSNBC -- people like the members of The Lincoln Project or The Bulwark -- got liberals to pay their bills. All the while trashing liberals and Democrats when they talk amongst themselves. Never underestimate how much of their identity as conservatives revolves around their boundless contempt for people like us.

And the main danger from what was allowed to happen -- their prominence in the "liberal" media -- means that they get to set the parameters of debate. They have a public platform to brush aside and dismiss without any consideration liberal proposals that would interfere with the pet projects they want to get back to, like ending Social Security, more deregulation, more conservative judges, and more tax cuts.

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WHY indeed. All I know for sure is NEVER trust a Republican. live love laugh Jun 2023 #1
Just wanted to add... WarGamer Jun 2023 #2
I would say MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #3
I thought about that option... WarGamer Jun 2023 #4
Whatever any r's say Marthe48 Jun 2023 #5
Ok... WarGamer Jun 2023 #6
I think the r's mentioned are putting the country before a traitor Marthe48 Jun 2023 #16
I think most Dems see them in the same light they see Liz Cheney Metaphorical Jun 2023 #7
good points... WarGamer Jun 2023 #8
Not me. Cheney is still GOPer thru and thru 617Blue Jun 2023 #28
Steve Schmidt isn't one of them - he left TLP a couple of years ago FakeNoose Jun 2023 #9
Frankly that's an even bigger question. WarGamer Jun 2023 #11
Nicole Wallace was a senior campaign advisor for McCain. femmedem Jun 2023 #33
Well... didn't Lee Atwater have a change of heart.... Montauk6 Aug 2023 #34
I for one am very grateful for their dedication to democracy. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2023 #10
Like said above... WarGamer Jun 2023 #12
disagree. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2023 #20
"But Trump activated hidden voters." kentuck Jun 2023 #13
IIRC, polling showed lots of never voted before folks. WarGamer Jun 2023 #15
My guess is that after Trump, those organizations will disappear. BlueCheeseAgain Jun 2023 #14
Yes, once we've done all the heavy lifting, they will go back to what they were doing... JHB Jun 2023 #17
I do remember Wilson saying awhile ago Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #18
The entire GOP is permanently diseased. Wilson et al are not going back. 617Blue Jun 2023 #30
They make no secret about what they are iemanja Jun 2023 #19
This. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #25
Not all war is bad - FDR/Truman believed that a proactive Western stance radius777 Jun 2023 #21
Hmmm... WarGamer Jun 2023 #23
This is what I've been saying: the Bush-Cheney crime network hates Trump. yardwork Jun 2023 #22
+1000 so true... WarGamer Jun 2023 #24
They're not just anti-Trump 617Blue Jun 2023 #26
Exactly. They're pro governance Johonny Jun 2023 #27
Charlie Sykes and The Bulwark have been fantastic 617Blue Jun 2023 #29
As someone said obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2023 #31
Let's beat the fascists. Then we can argue about taxes and regulations. nt 617Blue Jun 2023 #32
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