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Johnny2X2X

(24,223 posts)
113. LOL at people thinking colonoscopies are profit driven
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 08:40 AM
Jun 2023

It's not a high dollar procedure and it's not something doctors are thinking about doing to make money. It's one of those screenings that there is a little debate on when it should be done and when it is most useful. People over a certain age being told they don't need them is basically just a doctor saying, even if we find something, colon cancer is so slow moving that you'll probably die of something else first because you're so old.

Not everything is big coprorations trying to make money, colonoscopies are simple, low tech, and non surgical, they aren't major revenue sources for any clinic. They save lives and save you having to endure expensive and devastating cancer treatment later in your life, the type of treatment that is actually profitable for clinics. If doctors were priarily concerned about money, they screen no one for colon cancer, because the cancer treatments later in bring in 100 time the revenue of colonoscopies.

They found 2 small polyps during mine that were easily excised, labs determined they were benign but would have had around a 10% chance of developing into cancer within the next decade. So instead of a 1 in 10 chance of getting colon cancer, the screening now has me at a 1 in 100 chance roughly.

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my Dad used to grouse about docs/medical stuff: "It's a GD racket." I used to think he was a crank. CurtEastPoint Jun 2023 #1
Yeah. I hear you. MineralMan Jun 2023 #3
I can commiserate with you on this. My colonoscopy is due this month Walleye Jun 2023 #2
Well, I went ahead and did it. MineralMan Jun 2023 #5
At least if they find a polyp they can remove it before it becomes a problem, I think Walleye Jun 2023 #8
Yeah. The older I get, the less I care, really. MineralMan Jun 2023 #11
I'm pretty much getting to that point now, especially when it comes to replacing missing teeth Walleye Jun 2023 #15
I've never had one womanofthehills Jun 2023 #120
Yeah, I wouldn't have either, MineralMan Jun 2023 #122
My mother had colon cancer. wnylib Jun 2023 #68
I put it off for 20+ years The Blue Flower Jun 2023 #4
I'm 75 and have refused both for years. I'm a throat cancer survivor and whatever else goes sinkingfeeling Jun 2023 #6
Seems wise to me. MineralMan Jun 2023 #12
A friend has been in hospital for more than three weeks malaise Jun 2023 #81
I would do the same. MineralMan Jun 2023 #82
Same here malaise Jun 2023 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Jun 2023 #88
Colon Cancer is the 2nd leading cause of cancer death.. whathehell Jun 2023 #48
A classmate died age 54 of CC. Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #7
I'm not saying that colon cancer is not a real problem. MineralMan Jun 2023 #14
yep. i'm halfway in the various opinions Tetrachloride Jun 2023 #26
It's the 2nd leading cause of cancer death. whathehell Jun 2023 #49
An acquaintance died at 46. shrike3 Jun 2023 #102
I need to get a colonoscopy; TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #9
Yeah, that can be an issue. MineralMan Jun 2023 #17
Yeah, I've sat and waited for more than a few friends more than once. BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #109
Where I live Demobrat Jun 2023 #35
See post #62 below. nt TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #64
I have a family history and have polyps removed every three years since I was in Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #78
I believe another person can simply be there to take whathehell Jun 2023 #53
I've already talked with my physician and someone has to sit and wait while the procedure is done. TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #62
Okay. whathehell Jun 2023 #73
They couldn't remember the name at the physician's office. TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #92
Well, it's good you've got some time.. whathehell Jun 2023 #100
Interesting- the last few times Retrograde Jun 2023 #80
I was still working back when my doc scheduled me for my first colonoscopy. 70sEraVet Jun 2023 #60
Just tell a friends mercuryblues Jun 2023 #134
there is non-sedation colonoscopy: IcyPeas Jun 2023 #135
The issue becomes whether a GE can be found that is willing to do the procedure. TexasTowelie Jun 2023 #136
I agree with you 100% former9thward Jun 2023 #10
Yes, exactly. Your experience and mine are the same. MineralMan Jun 2023 #16
I dont think the media overdoes it FreeState Jun 2023 #34
My MIL had a Cologuard test that came back negative Abnredleg Jun 2023 #13
Colon cancer does happen. MineralMan Jun 2023 #18
My wifes best friends mother thatdemguy Jun 2023 #19
I hope you don't have to pay for the colonoscopy... 1WorldHope Jun 2023 #20
Insurance companies DownriverDem Jun 2023 #66
You are correct forthemiddle Jun 2023 #71
I've had a colonoscopy and I've done cologard. milestogo Jun 2023 #21
This is good information. Thank you. zuul Jun 2023 #36
Agree completely TxGuitar Jun 2023 #84
I had a colonoscopy and learned how to avoid the horrible preperation Jacson6 Jun 2023 #133
One reason I fear we will never have AFFORDABLE healthcare for everyone. The industry is too profit Silent Type Jun 2023 #22
I was 67 when I was diagnosed with colon cancer. Delmette2.0 Jun 2023 #23
Same thing this last year at 55 . Positive cologuard JCMach1 Jun 2023 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Jun 2023 #25
Colonoscopies are an important screening pinkstarburst Jun 2023 #27
You know, I'm not telling anyone not to get screened. MineralMan Jun 2023 #30
You certainly made strong arguments against screening. tinrobot Jun 2023 #86
+1 zuul Jun 2023 #37
+1,000,000 Auggie Jun 2023 #39
Yep. They found a tiny polyp in me when I was 50. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #52
Maybe people should focus way more on their diet malaise Jun 2023 #101
Yes, avoiding processed and cured meats is a huge one. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #131
I do not eat processed or cured meat pinkstarburst Jun 2023 #138
I only eat seafood and bird meat malaise Jun 2023 #139
I have a Cologuard test in my moonscape Jun 2023 #28
A routine colonoscopy killed my mother in law, 75,by puncturing her colon. Liberty Belle Jun 2023 #29
I think that is why they don't recommend colonoscopy after 70 MiniMe Jun 2023 #94
My GP says the same: Get a colonoscopy. Igel Jun 2023 #31
A dear friend has stage 3 colon cancer. He's 65. Demobrat Jun 2023 #32
Their Own Website Acknowledges a 13% False Positive Rate ProfessorGAC Jun 2023 #33
It seems in the high range of the range most cancer screenings FreeState Jun 2023 #41
Considering that before Cologard the ONLY screening was a colonoscopy, this Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #83
I'm there with you FreeState Jun 2023 #96
They tested me for that this year bc of the family history and my personal Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #99
Had a colonoscopy at 69, TNNurse Jun 2023 #38
My family has genetics that lead to colon cancer FreeState Jun 2023 #43
I have survived breast cancer, TNNurse Jun 2023 #45
Colon Cancer Incidence and Mortality by Age group, New York State, 2016-2020 ARPad95 Jun 2023 #40
What were the adverse effects you experienced? wackadoo wabbit Jun 2023 #108
The colonoscopy procedures did not cause issues except for the second one when I hoped to have ARPad95 Jun 2023 #126
I regret taking the cologuard test. Here's why Chautauquas Jun 2023 #42
Obama Care was supposed to fix this FreeState Jun 2023 #46
You mean a plan with its roots in the Heritage Foundation misanthrope Jun 2023 #98
Had a friend who put of the Colonoscopy Old Crank Jun 2023 #44
Had my first one weeks after turning 50 MurrayDelph Jun 2023 #47
I'd probably be dead by now had it not been for my first one Major Nikon Jun 2023 #50
thx for genuine perspective! always smelled a bit of " racket" to me... bringthePaine Jun 2023 #51
I have two friends whose husbands died from colon cancer. bluescribbler Jun 2023 #54
Goddamn. That's so sad ... and infuriating. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #55
I have had 5 clear tests since I turned 50. My unanswered question is: retread Jun 2023 #56
I don't know. I've had one of those simple tests every MineralMan Jun 2023 #124
I deal with this every day. carpetbagger Jun 2023 #57
I had been told I didn't need any more but turned out... 40RatRod Jun 2023 #58
Wow. I'm sorry. Can I ask what age you were when that happened? Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #89
1998 40RatRod Jun 2023 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author 40RatRod Jun 2023 #117
This message was self-deleted by its author 40RatRod Jun 2023 #118
Oh, I got a colonoscopy story. My last one, about 6 months ago....... jaxexpat Jun 2023 #59
Your story reminded me MurrayDelph Jun 2023 #90
With that query, I'm afraid you went a bit far. Hmmmm? jaxexpat Jun 2023 #91
Probably zero people with see this so far downthread, but still..... Coventina Jun 2023 #61
That is hysterically funny! niyad Jun 2023 #128
I did Cologuard last year caraher Jun 2023 #63
I'm 78 AverageOldGuy Jun 2023 #65
Interesting post llmart Jun 2023 #67
I loved Ehrenreich. BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #110
I have not read that one... llmart Jun 2023 #112
If President Biden thinks it is a good idea, so do I. Silent Type Jun 2023 #69
Lol, I like President Biden, but I don't make my personal health decisions based on his. BlackSkimmer Jun 2023 #75
I had the same kit... usedtobedemgurl Jun 2023 #70
I'm supposed to get one but I don't want to. Mosby Jun 2023 #72
No intubation, as far as I know. MineralMan Jun 2023 #76
They don't intubate. Usually just a mild sedative/anaesthesia tinrobot Jun 2023 #93
They need to be able to see. carpetbagger Jun 2023 #95
They have to thoroughly clean out your "tube," basically, so they can take a close look. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #132
I have had 3 or 4 Colonoscopies and they found nothing. I think I am doc03 Jun 2023 #74
Colon cancer is a horrible way to die. It is also a commonly occurring cancer. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #77
Yes, it is a horrible way to die. I've had two acquaintances, one of whom was quite young shrike3 Jun 2023 #104
That is awful. I'm so sorry. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #106
Thank you shrike3 Jun 2023 #107
Depends on what you want to put your loved ones through, I guess. Lars39 Jun 2023 #79
Wish there had been a "colon cancer detection industry" for my Dad (who died of it at 54.) tinrobot Jun 2023 #85
So sorry. An acquaintance of mine died at 46. shrike3 Jun 2023 #103
My neighbor, whose doctor never had her cksmithy Jun 2023 #97
I had my first colonoscopy last year. They found 3 polyps one of which was 18mm. That's pretty damn neverforget Jun 2023 #105
My primary care provider told me that while Cologuard seems like a great idea, it often Vinca Jun 2023 #111
LOL at people thinking colonoscopies are profit driven Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #113
They aren't? MineralMan Jun 2023 #121
We have a for-profit health system Bettie Jun 2023 #114
No Fishing Crataegus Jun 2023 #115
LOL! MineralMan Jun 2023 #119
DURec leftstreet Jun 2023 #123
I was recommended for one last year at 46 y.o. Mad_Machine76 Jun 2023 #125
The inthewind21 Jun 2023 #127
5 colonoscopies so far with 16 pre-cancerous polyps removed in total. LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #129
Clearly you need to keep doing that. MineralMan Jun 2023 #130
I've had about 5 scopes so far (age 74) and so far I've had at least 1 pre-CA polyp every time. Greybnk48 Jun 2023 #137
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