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lees1975

(7,097 posts)
9. I thought the Justice Department and FBI
Mon Jun 19, 2023, 04:37 PM
Jun 2023

weren't supposed to investigate based on "how it would play politically." One of the defenses of Garland's lack of action on this was that "he didn't want the investigation to be seen as political." Well, that can't be worked out both ways.

But they went after the "foot soldiers." Who do they think prompted those pitifully ignorant people into action? Many of them risked their careers and lost all credibility for this, and that didn't happen in a vacuum.

Wallace says that the only reason the DOJ has moved forward is public pressure. Good. That's the way democracy works. A lot of people have questioned the way this has been handled, and that's not an attack on Garland, but it's expecting reasonable accountability. We deserve tthat, in fact, as Americans, and especially Democrats who voted to put in office the President who appointed the AG, we are entitled to it. If the possibility exists that Trump could have already been prosecuted and put away by now, then we need to be able to have an opinion of that based on what we know.

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She is very good at laying it out. hlthe2b Jun 2023 #1
Yes those bastards protect the ultra right echelon with cockeyed excuses. GreenWave Jun 2023 #2
People here have said that all along. We were told Garland's got this. Autumn Jun 2023 #3
I can smell the cognitive dissonance cooking. nt Celerity Jun 2023 #7
So Biden chose an AG who would not pursue Trump investigations. wnylib Jun 2023 #21
November 18, 2022 Celerity Jun 2023 #29
And? By that time, the foot soldiers were, wnylib Jun 2023 #40
political bias charges from the Rethugs would have been launched no matter what Celerity Jun 2023 #44
+1 sarcasmo Jun 2023 #17
Sounds like the excellent Washington Post article from this morning. SharonClark Jun 2023 #4
here Celerity Jun 2023 #12
I am so angry I could spit. MFers, each and every one of those 'head'bastards NotHardly Jun 2023 #30
That is exactly what the right wings wants you to think. edisdead Jun 2023 #82
Garland MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #5
And Biden, too, by implication? wnylib Jun 2023 #23
There was great uncertainty in early 2021. bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #6
I thought the Justice Department and FBI lees1975 Jun 2023 #9
The facts here bear that out. Sadly. MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #15
Warning: collision ahead! brakester Jun 2023 #57
Garland and Wray need to resign. triron Jun 2023 #70
How in the hell would that help now? edisdead Jun 2023 #83
The problem is two-fold ... aggiesal Jun 2023 #18
BINGO BINGO BINGO gab13by13 Jun 2023 #20
Yes, he chose wrong. And now here we are. nt sprinkleeninow Jun 2023 #24
THANK YOU !!! uponit7771 Jun 2023 #59
It is a Big Country Club MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #78
"How it plays politically" is significant when wnylib Jun 2023 #25
Except no rational person would think the FBI or DOJ has the "political" data that is good ... uponit7771 Jun 2023 #62
If the person commiting the crimes is a polticial person, fuckit, investigate and arrest period! NotHardly Jun 2023 #36
Compare how the FBI treated Hillary's emails with triron Jun 2023 #87
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2023 #58
Many of us here were saying we needed a more assertive AG... brush Jun 2023 #8
This is why some of us have been very critical of Garland and the DOJ. Irish_Dem Jun 2023 #10
I'll wait until everything gets laid out for us to see in this before I'll go that far. lees1975 Jun 2023 #13
War MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #80
+1. It was a huge mistake to nominate Garland for AG dalton99a Jun 2023 #14
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2023 #63
That's true liberalmediaaddict Jun 2023 #11
Garland made it clear he was starting on the ground. RandySF Jun 2023 #16
How long did it take to figure out that Trump was deeply involved and behind it? lees1975 Jun 2023 #19
Probably a few hours for any of us who were watching TV that day. Some people in Congress Autumn Jun 2023 #35
+1, "really looks like a deliberate delay" uponit7771 Jun 2023 #64
Oh please. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #22
If it was so apparent to 'us', it most certainly was to Justice. nt sprinkleeninow Jun 2023 #26
It was all fucking televised. Speaking of video when do you think we peons will ever get to Autumn Jun 2023 #37
+1000. (nt) Paladin Jun 2023 #42
The only party that ever has to avoid partisanship is ours Mr. Ected Jun 2023 #27
+1 Celerity Jun 2023 #32
+1 dalton99a Jun 2023 #46
+3 Emile Jun 2023 #69
+4 Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #75
I seem to recall a thread here of people telling us Garland doubters Marius25 Jun 2023 #28
I absolutely agree with all you said. I never had any confidence in him but was afraid of getting SheilaAnn Jun 2023 #39
I don't recall seeing that thread. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #54
There were numerous OPs and threads on DU chastising us who plainly saw Garland dragging it. Earth-shine Jun 2023 #61
Garland needs to resign as does Wray triron Jun 2023 #72
How does that help right now? edisdead Jun 2023 #84
Ok agree but only for now triron Jun 2023 #88
DOJ & FBI's lagging to investigate the higher poli-junkie Jun 2023 #31
It is a tough call at this time. Did the DOJ need to indict and extract information from the Escurumbele Jun 2023 #33
Looks like they had enough information to take action on those on the top including Benedict Donald uponit7771 Jun 2023 #66
Trump incited insirrection via Twitter and on national TV on January 6. Lonestarblue Jun 2023 #34
It takes inthewind21 Jun 2023 #51
Boom. There it is. dchill Jun 2023 #38
Marcy Wheeler's take. lapucelle Jun 2023 #41
Quite interesting Pinback Jun 2023 #47
Note that investigations seemed to dead end at the money trail. I even think that Liz Cheney Hotler Jun 2023 #56
+1, I made this point to a friend who was asking why too many GQP still aren't calling for TFGs head uponit7771 Jun 2023 #68
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2023 #67
So, Garland didn't move fast enough for some... Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #43
He knew what was at stake. lees1975 Jun 2023 #81
Biden should fire Wray Historic NY Jun 2023 #45
Why not also garland? triron Jun 2023 #74
I don't know why he didn't clean house in early 2021. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #76
The plotters and planning staff need to be taken out Historic NY Jun 2023 #48
First off... 3825-87867 Jun 2023 #49
It may be moniss Jun 2023 #50
I think Garland had to be cautious because of the 40 percent of Americans who believed the 2020 LaMouffette Jun 2023 #52
😲😲😲" there was NOT universal outrage over Trump's insurrection" . I don't agree, Americans uponit7771 Jun 2023 #73
Most Americans were outraged, but disgustingly, there were many Republicans who approved of the LaMouffette Jun 2023 #77
Those are republicans while FAUX Newz is lying to them. The way to make the lies legit is to ... uponit7771 Jun 2023 #79
The country faces no greater immediate need than holding the traitors accountable Ponietz Jun 2023 #53
I know it's obligatory but damn it needs to be said bronxiteforever Jun 2023 #55
28 months and counting republianmushroom Jun 2023 #60
I can wait for Garland's explanation. moondust Jun 2023 #65
So Garland has proven to be weak on crime. Emile Jun 2023 #71
Something we seem to be forgetting. lees1975 Jun 2023 #85
Holy shit the right wing talking points in here. edisdead Jun 2023 #86
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