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69. I've always been in favor of getting it done right

Tue Jun 20, 2023, 08:53 PM

Jun 2023

Instead of being sloppy.
I viewed it as how long it takes to investigate things like RICO or high dollar tax evasion. Those cases can take years.
This case is a first and if not done with exacting, exhausting detail it could fail. To have this fail will be the final nail in the coffin of our almost 250 year experiment in governance.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "smoking gun" reveal in the WaPo story about Merrick Garland was [View all] brooklynite Jun 2023 OP

It's gotten us here with no bumps. I trust Garland. marble falls Jun 2023 #1

I don't know, my feelings are that Garland should have said on day one, do your job or resign. dem4decades Jun 2023 #2

Perhaps we differ in our definition of "doing your job" brooklynite Jun 2023 #4

And wouldn't we have to begin an investigation in order to get "irrefutable evidence"? Remember dem4decades Jun 2023 #7

Two years ago DU overall tended to support Garland. Igel Jun 2023 #31

How do you assert "they weren't looking at Trump"? brooklynite Jun 2023 #58

yes panader0 Jun 2023 #48

agree republianmushroom Jun 2023 #15

Perhaps because this story was so misleading to begin with. The fake electors were being Bev54 Jun 2023 #37

Who's the boss? I guess the buck doesn't stop at Garland's desk. dem4decades Jun 2023 #42

Well when you find out a story has misleading and missing information in it, I will give the Bev54 Jun 2023 #56

Wray is definnitely the one who should be fired soldierant Jun 2023 #67

Him and his man in charge of the DC field office. There definitely needs to be a cleanup Bev54 Jun 2023 #77

The Durham investigation had the FBI in its crosshairs. Years under a summer_in_TX Jun 2023 #89

That isn't the way political appointees talk to.... reACTIONary Jun 2023 #47

Just 2 words say it all......".ironclad indictment." There is ..." 0NE MORE IDEA ." Stuart G Jun 2023 #3

"Why" is completely irrelevant in this case Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #20

That's why he'll never take the stand. bluesbassman Jun 2023 #21

He said he was busy while trying to pack to leave on 4 yr vacation Captain Zero Jun 2023 #23

How about a much longer vacation.. LW1977 Jun 2023 #44

They were packed when he was president. Igel Jun 2023 #33

January 6th is still the major issue. CentralMass Jun 2023 #5

YES IT IS, HOW DOES HE GET AROUND THAT ONE? Stuart G Jun 2023 #6

Barr says the First Amendment makes that one shaky. Frasier Balzov Jun 2023 #13

In addition to the speech, he refused to call in the national guard etc to help defend the capital karynnj Jun 2023 #19

Failing to call out the national guard was Sgent Jun 2023 #30

Name the statute that... brooklynite Jun 2023 #62

Not a lawyer, but I agree it by itself violates nothing karynnj Jun 2023 #83

Its not enough to define motivation; you have to present proof. brooklynite Jun 2023 #86

I am aware of that karynnj Jun 2023 #91

Trump led an insurrection. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2023 #52

Again, you can prove that to a jury? brooklynite Jun 2023 #63

And the point of the WaPost story, no? KPN Jun 2023 #32

That's the problem I have with all the hoopla surrounding the WP article. Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #8

Yes BUT.. As Charles Pierce Wrote.. Cha Jun 2023 #22

Pierce offers a lot more hindsight than I could ever muster. Beastly Boy Jun 2023 #73

You're So Welcome, Beastly Boy.. Cha Jun 2023 #76

The documents case dropped in his lap BeyondGeography Jun 2023 #9

We'll also never know how much evidence was uncovered since 2021 by their taking time. Chakaconcarne Jun 2023 #12

Have to admit BeyondGeography Jun 2023 #14

what irrefutable proof do you have they waited 15 months to investigate Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #24

It's in the WaPo article BeyondGeography Jun 2023 #26

WOW inthewind21 Jun 2023 #101

The excerpt contains simple facts BeyondGeography Jun 2023 #106

Yep, IMO trump could've been tried and convicted on the... brush Jun 2023 #25

Huh inthewind21 Jun 2023 #102

The stolen docs were found at his Florida resort. DUH! brush Jun 2023 #103

K&R brer cat Jun 2023 #10

+1...then once again reason puts its pants on and catches up to yesterdays outrage. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #27

Making this about Garland alone trivializes the issue iemanja Jun 2023 #11

+1 RockRaven Jun 2023 #16

Thank you Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2023 #18

Well stated. trump could've been tried already on the slam dunk docs case. brush Jun 2023 #28

The FBI is biased toward Republicans and some are even worse. yardwork Jun 2023 #46

"A key person in the NY FBI office was on the Russian payroll," Jus ... there's LAYERS of this crap uponit7771 Jun 2023 #110

It was never a story at all, which is a disgrace. yardwork Jun 2023 #111

good post Celerity Jun 2023 #60

What she said. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #98

THANK YOU !!! "declined to investigate the matter in February 2021" is the root of the issue with uponit7771 Jun 2023 #108

They work with him, know him. I'm inclined to believe their opinion. Autumn Jun 2023 #17

Exactly. Garland said 'we have to get this right' mzmolly Jun 2023 #29

I've always been in favor of getting it done right xmas74 Jun 2023 #69

I agree. mzmolly Jun 2023 #71

Exactly. xmas74 Jun 2023 #72

Right! mzmolly Jun 2023 #81

I agree mcar Jun 2023 #34

When I read it, I was sure it said there was at least a year delay in investigations by FBI. mysteryowl Jun 2023 #35

The WP Garland/FBI delay "smoking gun" agingdem Jun 2023 #36

You know, I thought Carol Leonning was a bit uncomfortable with this story. Just a feeling Joinfortmill Jun 2023 #38

She's a great reporter. My guess is she'll do a follow up at some point. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #40

My reading as well, plus we learned an FBI agent tried to slow walk stuff but was ultimately over emulatorloo Jun 2023 #39

I believe that Garland was hoping that everyone would forget nakocal Jun 2023 #41

And yet Trump was just indicted, which doesn't really support your beliefs. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #45

No, no...all those DU complaints became too much to resist. brooklynite Jun 2023 #64

I know, I am an truly an idiot to get sucked in to replying. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #84

Everybody has said for years that Merrick Garland is cautious and meticulous. yardwork Jun 2023 #43

I second this comment. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #53

I'm a mostly cautious person xmas74 Jun 2023 #70

No Jan 6 investigation of higher ups, then probably Sneederbunk Jun 2023 #49

The pace has been nothing but beneficial bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #50

Funny to me that after years of the WaPo being called a right-wing source, Jeff Bezos betsuni Jun 2023 #51

+1 treestar Jun 2023 #54

Because inthewind21 Jun 2023 #104

You are wrong! Everyday *rump is free, he his a danger to the... JoeOtterbein Jun 2023 #55

Can't have enough of that BeyondGeography Jun 2023 #57

"Lock him up! Today!".... Thanks for proving my point. brooklynite Jun 2023 #65

Anyone else, indicted on the charges *rump is accused of... JoeOtterbein Jun 2023 #68

Like Reality Winner who served 4 years for stealing/copying ONE classified document. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #78

Exactly! JoeOtterbein Jun 2023 #79

That is not what the report said...nothing was done for two years...and I believe the only reason Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #59

Agree. tavernier Jun 2023 #75

Well said. It shouldn't have taken two years, especially not when Congress had already laid out the lees1975 Jun 2023 #90

You're absolutely right. The overriding theme Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #99

It appears to me as I said that the January 6th committee shamed Justice into doing something. Demsrule86 Jun 2023 #107

An indictment, prosecuted successfully, would do a lot for the general confidence in Garland. jaxexpat Jun 2023 #61

There was just an indictment issued though. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #85

Indeed, there was. Millions of others and I look forward to its successful prosecution. jaxexpat Jun 2023 #96

You're not wrong, so no correction needed. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #66

I don't think enough information is available to have an informed opinion on the subject. hay rick Jun 2023 #74

DOJ only speaks when they indict or thru court filings. That is way it is supposed to be. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #82

I read the indictment. hay rick Jun 2023 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jun 2023 #92

Y'all sensationalize a misstep and then go out of your way to minimize the actual achievement. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #93

+1 betsuni Jun 2023 #95

You think WaPO made it all up? iemanja Jun 2023 #97

Yes, some do. Because emptywheel did a blog Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #100

Well, if it's in a blog . . . iemanja Jun 2023 #105

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2023 #109

That is what I read, too. Progressive dog Jun 2023 #80

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2023 #87

Recommended n/t emulatorloo Jun 2023 #94