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Hortensis

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49. The electorate (voters!) shifted and gave Democrats strong triumvirate
Thu Jun 22, 2023, 10:16 PM
Jun 2023

control of the federal government -- presidency, senate and house -- through three national elections for TWELVE CONSECUTIVE YEARS.

That's how we did it. By a large, mostly unstoppable majority formed by people from all levels of society. Of course you're right about the effect on many among the big powers who'd controlled for several decades and run the nation into the ground. But the majority of voters were forced by disasters they'd allowed to build to finally engage, and they chose reform of their existing economic system, voting against the authoritarian socialist and fascist movements they were watching other nations fall to.

That was also the era when black voters moved to the Democratic Party, from I think about a quarter to third of those who voted to almost all, forming the strong black voter bloc that's been acting through the Democratic Party ever since. (Speaking of history, how about them and the intractably racist Southern conservative faction in one party, both fighting for big changes they needed and against each other?!)

Always important to remember on this topic, btw, that at all times (including then and today) many (not most but many) wealthy leaders are anywhere from moderately conservative and moderately progressive to outright liberal and progressive in orientation. They now, and even some strong conservatives normally do also to some degree because it's true, that business prosperity has a very positive, synergistic relationship with widespread private prosperity and are glad when waves of positive changes happen that they can get behind.

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and I see where the power company doubled prices yesterday. niyad Jun 2023 #1
Yeah just in time for Abbotts big donor to make more money. flying_wahini Jun 2023 #30
"Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished. " raccoon Jun 2023 #2
Wow, poor things. I'm really sorry that all those who voted for better Hortensis Jun 2023 #3
The poor and working class will bear the burden. The rich either have generators or just fly out dutch777 Jun 2023 #6
Umhm, but the working classes will all Hortensis Jun 2023 #16
I think it was the limited but enthusiastic popularity orthoclad Jun 2023 #46
The electorate (voters!) shifted and gave Democrats strong triumvirate Hortensis Jun 2023 #49
Or just fly out keithbvadu2 Jun 2023 #18
This makes me, a third generation Texan, feel SO HAPPY to have left Texas and never went back CTyankee Jun 2023 #4
Same here Random Boomer Jun 2023 #48
It is really too sad. There were genuinely good hearted Dems in my family, relatives who CTyankee Jun 2023 #50
anybody know what the solar sitch is there? mopinko Jun 2023 #5
A LOT of people here have invested in solar. Jirel Jun 2023 #13
Brilliant expose to some of the many complexities... jaxexpat Jun 2023 #17
Rooftop solar excels at orthoclad Jun 2023 #47
I had solar installed a few months ago. Shipwack Jun 2023 #37
As you said, it was a storm that knocked the power out. NOT THE GRID! Liberal In Texas Jun 2023 #7
Grids that are poorly designed have too many .... jaxexpat Jun 2023 #21
Funny how in my county in Georgia, we hire Ilsa Jun 2023 #26
They do that in Illinois, too. ShazzieB Jun 2023 #45
Yea, 70 mph winds aren't that unusual in Tx BUT when Millions of people left without power flying_wahini Jun 2023 #32
Just love to bash some Texas Lurker Deluxe Jun 2023 #59
"It's all the lib'ruls fault!" Wednesdays Jun 2023 #8
Hillary's emails SCantiGOP Jun 2023 #28
Abbot's too busy fighting drag shows and water breaks for outside workers Bristlecone Jun 2023 #9
And didn't Beto promise fixing the grid would be priority 1? Native Jun 2023 #10
Nope. The JesusFreedomEagleGunWokeLibtardFetusTruck vote wins every time . . . hatrack Jun 2023 #11
Doing things that help people ain't on ABBUTT's grid. UTUSN Jun 2023 #12
In Texas, suffering from a collapsed commonwealth is a source of pride. Go figure. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2023 #19
like split texas in to 4 smaller states? AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #22
Most voters in TX not interested in competence from gov't 617Blue Jun 2023 #14
That's what many said during Koch take over WI. LakeArenal Jun 2023 #25
if only... but that damn state re-elected that psycho recently after so many debacles LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #15
I dunno, Beto did VERY well but gerrymandering took care of that liberal vote. flying_wahini Jun 2023 #33
gerrymander shouldn't affect a statewide race... but there is definitely voter suppression there too LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #44
Gerrymandering is an indirect form of voter suppression ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #60
yes but in a statewide race, there are no gerrymandered districts LymphocyteLover Jun 2023 #61
fix every thing , but the rs dont want to spend money. AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #20
if i were to go into solar it would be stand alone only . . no grid tie for me AllaN01Bear Jun 2023 #23
These stories can't be true--the Governor fixed the grid two years ago! Lonestarblue Jun 2023 #24
unable to perform even basic functions of civilization, like having reliable electricity," Cruz wrot keithbvadu2 Jun 2023 #27
Nt Marcuse Jun 2023 #39
voting Hoosier_Progressiv Jun 2023 #29
Vote The Democrats In. Let them fix the problems in Texas. UCmeNdc Jun 2023 #31
As I have said, look at the map and Texas vote tallies and say we didn't try. flying_wahini Jun 2023 #34
I think Abbot will be fine kimbutgar Jun 2023 #35
I love it! Texas was bragging that their grid was the cheapest and best in the nation. Now we know Martin68 Jun 2023 #36
I'm in Spring, exactly north of Houston line. Power went out at 8:55 last night during txwhitedove Jun 2023 #38
He'll still have a job as long as MAGA churches vote MAGA. Initech Jun 2023 #40
The majority of Texas voters seem to welcome more abuse from Abbott. Sky Jewels Jun 2023 #41
Assume the position... Initech Jun 2023 #42
They froze to death but still, Cruz and Abbott enjoy Maru Kitteh Jun 2023 #43
abbott will not provide funds to fix the effing grid........... joshdawg Jun 2023 #51
Someone in his office and at the Manse needs to sabotage Ilsa Jun 2023 #52
Yah but they keep bleating they can be their own country.... raising2moredems Jun 2023 #53
I am convinced Texans are too fanatical and stupid to understand the damage Abbot is doing Escurumbele Jun 2023 #54
He isn't going anywhere. Texans would vote Republican even if the candidate pledged to kill AZLD4Candidate Jun 2023 #55
Can we please refrain from names based on someone's mobility? AllyCat Jun 2023 #56
A majority of Texans will continue to vote for that asspickle maxrandb Jun 2023 #57
Unlikely. Remember the terrible winter storms in 2021 and 2022? pinkstarburst Jun 2023 #58
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