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DinahMoeHum

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13. Tom Nichols wrote in The Atlantic about this development. . .
Sat Jun 24, 2023, 12:43 PM
Jun 2023

(no paywall here)

https://archive.ph/6a68a


Does any of this endanger the United States or NATO?


Instability in a nuclear-armed country is always worrying. For now, although the Kremlin is likely in turmoil, there is no evidence of imminent violence or a government crack-up. Russian nuclear control is likely divided among Putin, Shoigu, and Gerasimov, and none of them has vanished or been displaced (as far as we can tell). That’s the good news.

Of more concern is the possibility that Prigozhin’s gambit all along was the leading edge of an effort by hard-right Russian nationalists to push Putin to be even more violent in Ukraine and more confrontational with the West, and perhaps even to provoke a conflict with NATO. So far, tonight’s chaos does not seem to involve the U.S., NATO, or even Ukraine, but a fight among Russian gangsters, in part over whether Russia is being brutal enough in a war of unprovoked aggression, is something to watch.

For now, with Wagner out of the picture—or perhaps even in open revolt against Russian regular forces—the Ukrainians have caught a break. But there are still a lot of bad things that can happen in Moscow in the next few days, or even hours. As the political scientist and Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer noted tonight: “Putin’s never looked weaker than right now, in the Ukraine war, and at home, which is welcome—and extremely dangerous.”

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Exactly right, Tom. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #1
No kidding dalton99a Jun 2023 #2
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Exactly moniss Jun 2023 #12
Tom Nichols wrote in The Atlantic about this development. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2023 #13
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Thanks, Mr. "Spent My Career Enabling Sociopathic Ignoramuses" JHB Jun 2023 #16
Indeed. calimary Jun 2023 #21
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