12 year old daughter of gun nut shoots him, kills herself

[shrike3]

41. The gun itself was invented to kill someone.

That is the only reason the gun is in this world. That's why I say it's a false equivalency to compare it to cars, swimming pools, etc.

Now, as far as the rest of your post, we are on the same page when it comes to a lot of things. Licensing, etc., are fine options, IMO. Problem is, red states, like the one I'm in, are going in the opposite direction. We already have permit-less carry where I live, and the trend here seems to be, more guns, not less, will solve all our problems. Which is more frustrating than I can express.