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LetMyPeopleVote

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Tue Jun 27, 2023, 10:44 AM Jun 2023

Supreme Court rejects fringe elections theory [View all]

This theory never made sense to me



https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/supreme-court-ruling-moore-harper-north-carolina-elections-rcna87123

The Supreme Court rejected the fringe, GOP-backed "independent state legislature" theory in a 6-3 opinion authored by Chief Justice John Roberts.

State legislatures don't have exclusive and independent authority to set federal election rules, Roberts wrote, over dissent from Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch.

Heading into this Supreme Court term, which started in October, voting rights proponents feared Moore v. Harper. The elections case from North Carolina raised the fringe theory that could give state legislatures across the country unfettered control over federal elections.

As MSNBC columnist Jessica Levinson explained in December:

If ... the Supreme Court accepts the broadest version of the independent state legislature theory, then state lawmakers will, with few exceptions, have exclusive power to make decisions about federal elections. Those decisions might involve whether there’s early voting, how many polling places there are and where, if voting by mail is allowed and even if the people’s vote for president should be accepted.

But oral argument earlier this term suggested that even a majority of this court wasn't jumping to accept the most extreme version of the theory. Events since the argument, however, raised the prospect of the case going away before it could be decided. That's because North Carolina's Supreme Court, with a new Republican majority hungry to reverse pro-democratic precedents, condoned partisan gerrymandering in an April ruling related to the pending U.S. Supreme Court appeal. Given the intervening developments in North Carolina, the U.S. Supreme Court raised the prospect that the case could be moot and asked the parties to weigh in on its fate. Yet the court said the case wasn't moot and decided it.
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Marbury v. Madison saved the right of state courts to review state election statutes. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #1
MORE Marbury griping? grrr.... I need to pay more attention HelpImSurrounded Jun 2023 #6
It Is An Odd Bit, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2023 #8
The concept of judicial review was established well before Marbury, Ocelot II Jun 2023 #14
We Place Different Weights On The Political Factors, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2023 #23
If you have a better idea for determining whether a law is constitutional, I'd like to hear it, but Ocelot II Jun 2023 #33
I Repeat, Ma'am: I Do Not Object To Judicial Review The Magistrate Jun 2023 #34
One reason I love DU... cilla4progress Jun 2023 #28
Alito, Thomas of course -shitweasels are gonna shitweasel. Fuck Gorsuch too. Totally. Comfortably_Numb Jun 2023 #2
Disgusting fucking assholes. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2023 #9
Typical of Alito and Thomas, madaboutharry Jun 2023 #3
Is SCOTUS stepping away from polarizing partisanship? bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #4
Or.... If we give states the rights then SCOTUS loses some of their power to rule the masses? LakeArenal Jun 2023 #7
Lately, it seems, that the supreme court giveth, and the supreme court taketh away. BComplex Jun 2023 #11
As judgment states, no way to get around the precedent, courts CAN review any legislative leap Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2023 #12
Hope so. You sound right! 🤞🏼 LakeArenal Jun 2023 #17
Give the devils their due EnergizedLib Jun 2023 #5
Thank you Neal Katyal LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #18
A great victory for voters and loss for those that want to end elections Takket Jun 2023 #10
The Moore v. Harper decision effectively eliminates the John Eastman theory of presidential electors LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #13
Jeffrey Clark gets murdered by Arnold...lol Nevilledog Jun 2023 #16
It should have been unanimous. The fact that 3 dissented is terrifying to me. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #15
It's not quite as terrifying as you might think. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #22
Your parenthetical question holds merit. Plus, the "try again later" is a dangerous message. Oopsie Daisy Jun 2023 #25
True, but even Alito didn't join that part of the dissent. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #27
Informative comment, thank you! WestMichRad Jun 2023 #26
That's good news RussBLib Jun 2023 #19
The Big Story kentuck Jun 2023 #20
Helpful distillation - cilla4progress Jun 2023 #29
Alito and Thomas of course voted yes liberalmediaaddict Jun 2023 #21
Statement from Senator Schumer LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #24
6-3 decision republianmushroom Jun 2023 #30
This should IMO be a 9-0 decision. mwooldri Jun 2023 #31
The 'Independent State Legislature Theory' Is Dead LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #32
Hallelujah! Cha Jun 2023 #35
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #36
Today's ruling is arguably also arguably a blow to John Eastman in the fight over his law license. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2023 #37
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