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ProfessorPlum

(11,461 posts) Wed Jun 28, 2023, 10:07 AM Jun 2023

did this latest SC decision kill the movement to make the Electoral College obsolete? [View all]

I support the movement to create a popular vote for president via having states representing the required number of EC votes pledge their electors to the winner of the national popular vote.

However, the mechanism - having states assign their electors not based on how their vote tallies come out but rather on some other basis - sounds very much like the schemes that were voted down this week. Where Republican-run states could just assign their electors arbitrarily.

Does this effectively kill the plan to end (the relevance of) the Electoral College?

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did this latest SC decision kill the movement to make the Electoral College obsolete? [View all] ProfessorPlum Jun 2023 OP

There was never a "movement to make the Electoral College obsolete" brooklynite Jun 2023 #1

I understand the writer to mean, gab13by13 Jun 2023 #7

But that wasn't a movement either. brooklynite Jun 2023 #9

It doesn't in itself treestar Jun 2023 #16

some states already do that, I think. Nebraska? ProfessorPlum Jun 2023 #17

Yes, and Maine treestar Jun 2023 #19

I disagree with this part In It to Win It Jun 2023 #24

Even that's not perfect. It's not proportional. In It to Win It Jun 2023 #23

They already have 205 of the 270 EC votes needed ProfessorPlum Jun 2023 #11

Its a question of WHICH States they have. brooklynite Jun 2023 #13

gee, they got the easy ones first. what a surprise ProfessorPlum Jun 2023 #15

In which case: share the current and future progress. brooklynite Jun 2023 #25

given that neither of us are Carnac the Magnificent ProfessorPlum Jun 2023 #36

I'm not speculating; I'm analyzing brooklynite Jun 2023 #38

we'll see. I think the overturning of Roe and their hateful homophobia ProfessorPlum Jun 2023 #47

Some of us hope that will eventually change, DemocraticPatriot Jun 2023 #40

I don't think Greg Abott or the Texas legislature have any intention, though Texas would benefit GregariousGroundhog Jun 2023 #21

Just had a discussion with Jocelyn Benson (MI-SOS) and Steve Simon (MN-SOS) on this topic... brooklynite Jun 2023 #34

Probably but you must wait until a Democrat wins the presidency that way so Republicans can appeal bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #2

No, those are state laws. This ruling says state legislatures can't ignore state laws willy-nilly mathematic Jun 2023 #3

I see. thanks, that makes sense ProfessorPlum Jun 2023 #12

No, but that wasn't going to happen anyhow. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #4

Electoral votes are recalculated every 10 years with the census, no? NYC Liberal Jun 2023 #8

The total number of House seats was fixed at 435 in 1911. Ocelot II Jun 2023 #14

That statute needs to be changed Bettie Jun 2023 #20

Expanding the House solves many problems IMO Zeitghost Jun 2023 #27

Ultimately, it would make our overall political Bettie Jun 2023 #28

To Fix Congress, Make It Bigger. Much Bigger. Celerity Jun 2023 #45

Ah, ok, I see what you were referring to. NYC Liberal Jun 2023 #30

All state legislatures had to do was gab13by13 Jun 2023 #10

I took the SCOTUS decision to mean House of Roberts Jun 2023 #5

Except inthewind21 Jun 2023 #6

Which means whatever at least five of nine SCOTUS justices SAYS it means. House of Roberts Jun 2023 #33

But the federal courts can review state court decisions Ocelot II Jun 2023 #18

This is correct, as the NC Rethugs will now (after they went 5-2 RW on the NC SC and reversed the Celerity Jun 2023 #42

That could be a consequence MichMan Jun 2023 #22

Not unconstitutional but will never happen brooklynite Jun 2023 #26

Considering the Constitution Zeitghost Jun 2023 #29

A state could hardly pass laws for example that only Democrats could be awarded EC votes MichMan Jun 2023 #31

You would be shocked Zeitghost Jun 2023 #32

So a state could quit having a public vote at all, but courts won't let them require photo ID? MichMan Jun 2023 #35

For President Zeitghost Jun 2023 #37

Actually they could. brooklynite Jun 2023 #39

The Blue States should pass laws that votes for Dems count double in Presidential elections MichMan Jun 2023 #41

That doesn't double a Blue State's Electoral College vote total though. Celerity Jun 2023 #43

If the Popular Vote Compact ever got enough, it would MichMan Jun 2023 #44

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact's unlikely to happen anytime soon as it would require Celerity Jun 2023 #46